alpha (lse) on caring econ

Building a Caring Economy | LSE Online Event (feb 2021 – retweeted by nika dubrovsky jan 2023)

This was an incredible @LSEInequalities @LSEpublicevents to Chair w award winning Madeleine Bunting, Diane Elson & @lynne_segal, placing CARE at the centre of our economy & society. 

Podcast now available ๐Ÿ‘‰

@nikadubrovsky @WomensBudgetGrp @littler_jo

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notes/quotes from 90 min video:

alpha: the vision of care we will discuss today is visionary/radical.. means to entirely transform how we think about the econ.. to bring about a more caring world

2 min – alpha: centering care at heart of our econ is not new.. it has taken a global pandemic to bring discussions of care to center state

begs this: oikos (the economy our souls crave).. โ€˜i should say: the house shelters day-dreaming, the house protects the dreamer, the house allows one to dream in peace.โ€™ โ€“ gaston bachelard, the poetics of space

otherwise.. steiner care to oppression law et al.. graeber violence in care law et al..

4 min – today 3 outstanding interventions that seek to rebuild econ/society with care at its center.. one book, one manifesto, on e report as call to action.. all started well before pandemic.. just that now we cannot ignore them.. so all 3 have proven to be p;rofect

6 min – 1\ madeline buntings labors of love the crisis of care

next 2 think about why/how we need to recenter care from relationship to each other and environ.. provide path for future.. prepared thru collective participatory endeavor

2\ care manifesto – from 5 authors from diff disciplinary backgrounds.. and exercise in rethinking collective life and imagine a new future..

8 min – 3\ commission on gender equal econ ‘creating a caring econ’.. ‘a call to action’.. like the care manifesto it’s also entirely re envisioning what we mean by the econ.. and puts care of people, sustainability, and environ at center

oi.. if only.. but all these are already part\ial ness

9 min – each tells briefly their motivations and how went about it

madeline: started writing book.. had been writing about care for 20 for guardian.. ie: low pay et al.. care structures of our society were deeply over stretched.. felt this very acutely when started writing book 5 yrs ago.. ‘we place so much value on paid work and so little un upaid’.. why got so little recognition.. so looked for a better framing.. where not systematically undervalued.. i had absorbed this undervaluing myself

13min – lynne (on manifesto): everything i’ve said and done reflect on care.. ie: books on: aging, gender equality, market driven rationality, then friends decided they wanted to join.. so 5 of us started a reading group.. the more we read on care.. got caught up in the urgencies of the moment.. ie: elderly, daily scandals on care homes, .. led us to believe we had to mount a call to action.. to demand that care be placed at the very heart of politics.. so much was wrong and something diff had to come about urgently

for (blank)โ€™s sake

19 min – 3\ report came out of a commission of women’s action.. analyzing impact of econ policy uk budget.. then decided we want to be more proactive.. ie: what would a gender equal econ look like and how would we get there..

like this: bachelard oikos law.. sans any form of m\a\p

24 min – madeline: voices of carers themselves are so much missed out.. good chunk of book is lengthy interviews i did with all the careworkers: mothers, nurses, social care workers, end of life care workers.. wanted to establish voices of people .. i was looking for carees to provide me with their defn of ‘what is care’.. when i asked them.. almost invariably said ‘haven’t gotten much to say’.. then hour later ‘my gosh i’ve got much to say’ ‘first time i’ve talked about this.. nobody has ever been interested’.. there is this lack of curiosity.. what is it.. i thought.. if this book could just make us curious.. i talk about care as an empire.. i wanted us to develop curiosity.. let’s just be curious

need deeper.. 1st/most: means to undo our hierarchical listening to self/others/nature ie: tech as it could be

29 min – madeline: came away w working defn: presence, attention and touch.. those ingredients are at the heart of it.. at heart of caring econ is gift econ.. it’s always a giving of self care.. though paid little.. value was about how much they gave of themselves.. there’s a reciprocity there.. reciprocity of care relationship is what we’ve overlooked.. and distorted by imposing on it commodification and consumerization.. can’t apply consumerization to care.. the way the language of it has slipped.. ways we’ve fundamentally distorted care

oi.. reciprocity would be same song in the end.. all the red flags


but deeper.. that is with any form of m\a\p

33 min – alpha: thank you madeline.. we need to have that kind of deep ethnography .. ethnographic approach.. to get at those voices.. people themselves devalue what they’re doing.. t

alpha: at same time.. highlight gift econ.. problem is these people aren’t getting paid what they ought to get paid.. we have to think about care in a separate value system.. but still needs to be value in a monetary value

again.. bachelard oikos law.. sans any form of m\a\p.. otherwise value system is same song .. aka: structural violence

34 min – alpha: how do we reconsign all these value systems.. t

lynne: where to begin is the problem.. so much lack/poverty

humanity needs a leap.. to get back/to simultaneous spontaneity .. simultaneous fittingness.. everyone in sync.. sans any form of m\a\p

for (blank)โ€™s sake

41 min – thank you lynne for talking about global care system..

need deeper.. or not global

42 min – diane: about environ.. because sustainability is a critical issue.. can’t create caring econ if in crisis.. have to care for planet as well.. boundaries they (care and planet) both share: 1\ dominance of short term financial interest create false econs (not sure what next 2 were.. productivity/efficiency?)

50 min – madeline: i’m a little nervous about this emphasis on building a caring econ is about economics.. because it’s about everything .. it’s about culture, society, design.. **how to design institutions.. imagine the kinds of org that can support cultures of care.. people don’t do care on their own.. always grounded in relationships of support.. greatest challenges now.. how do we design orgs that really inspire care.. ie: in history florence nightengale reimagined care.. we need something of that same ambition, vision.. ***how do we reimagine care as radically as florence did..t there’s something around that reimagining of institutions..

*so.. we have to go this (bachelard oikos law) deep

**too limiting.. (later adds: how florence redesigned).. not deep enough

***need more radical than florence.. ie: org around legit needs

1:01 – alpha: now you can understand why i said at beginning this would be radical

diane: in our report we id 8 steps – one we haven’t talked about is taxation.. need to mobilize resources collectively.. system now.. rich people are able to avoid paying

1:04 – q&a.. alpha: think we need to think of dark sides of care and down sides




david on human economies.. caring labor.. et al

lse from hardt at lse; bs jobs at lse; myth at lse; fragments at lse; debt at lse; value at lse; lse graeber series; lost people at lse; doe at lse; et al