first intro’d to Shenzhen via Bunnie at mit talk..

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Shenzhen ([ʂə́nʈʂə̂n]; Chinese: 深圳) is a major city in Guangdong Province, China. Shenzhen is located immediately north of Hong Kong Special Administrative Region. It holds sub-provincial administrative status, with powers slightly less than a province.

Shenzhen was a market town of 30,000 people on the route of the Kowloon–Canton Railway. That changed in 1979 when Shenzhen was promoted to city-status and in 1980 designated China’s first Special Economic Zone (SEZ). According to the Government report for 2015, Shenzhen had transformed to a city with population of 10,778,900 and a metropolitan area population of over 18 million. Shenzhen was one of the fastest-growing cities in the world during the 1990s and the 2000s. Shenzhen’s population boom slowed down to less than one percent per year by 2013 as the manufacturing boom ebbed in favor of other industries.

Shenzhen’s modern cityscape is the result of its vibrant economy made possible by rapid foreign investment since the institution of the policy of “reform and opening” establishment of the SEZ in late 1979.

Shenzhen is a major financial center in southern China. The city is home to the Shenzhen Stock Exchange as well as the headquarters of numerous high-tech companies. Shenzhen ranks 19th in the 2016 edition of the Global Financial Centres Index published by the Z/Yen Group and Qatar Financial Centre Authority. It also has one of the busiest container ports in the world.


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shenzen: the silicon valley of hardware (70 min doc)

from 300 000 to 20 mill

2 min – the core tenants of sharing ip is extremely enabling – bunnie

3 min – literally all moore’s law has been – reducing the font size of circuits.. – bunnie

4 min – being in hardware wasn’t profitable.. enter.. features – bunnie

not because microsoft got faster.. computers got faster for free.. people chasing that innovation.. there was no value in saudering parts – bunnie

5 min – building of stuff had to go to people who got paid a lot less.. then moore’s law slows.. optimisation sucks.. now .. what can we do with it.. people realizing nische markets for hardware – bunnie

6 min – and so now coming back to saudering ecosystem.. can you help us build these things.. – bunnie

7 min – hax – hardware excellorator – duncan turner …. et al

8 min – we bring people here because of the ecosystem.. can build things faster/cheaper – duncan

9 min – ie: robot in a week.. never seen any prototyping like that when we were in the states – chen

10 min – not that long ago – shenzhen literally rice paddies – duncan

trying to de mystify (small sleeping village to metropolis overnight) shenzhen growth.. size now (no one knows size – 10 mill generally used).. thru my work –  no population able to grow like this –  prior to 1980.. china in a very poor econ state – juan du

11 min – cui xiao song: chief at museum – diff between shenzen and hong kong 10 fold 1970 – pm visited and said it was not question of govt’s effectivenss but of policy.. so intro’d the reform and opening up process

12 min – what can country do to generate jobs.. generally intention was – what can we do to feed the peope – social safety net.. every person .. clothing/food/electricity coupons – if they came to work there.. special econ zone…. it attracted people who wanted more freedom..- juan

13 min – pic of workers on way to work – happy ..holding hands.. playing instruments..

shenzhen’s mission: tech, knowledge and window to external world

15 min – intel conf in shenzen 2016

16 min – maker movement and everything open sourced… dale dougherty.. created


17 min – bringing first maker faire here.. 2015 – and i asked.. how do you have a maker faire when people don’t do it for enjoyment.. they do it for a job – bunnie

18 min – realized china’s middle class is size of entire u.s. pop.. so even a small section had risen to upper middle class.. big enough to compare to u.s. scale of making – bunnie

18 min – also coming out of this.. open source movement.. just the expectation.. it’s going to be copied by someone else..  not having ego attached to a creation.. – david li

20 min – arduino ness

23 min – seen great ie’s of open source doing good in world.. the difficulty is monetizing open source.. if providing value.. making world a better place – should be compensation for that.. – duncan

24 min – everywhere i go.. talks.. i get asked: how to protect ip how to making money if don’t protect ip – diff reaction in shenzhen.. said: so what’s new about this.. – david li

25 min – you’ll see here.. what will show up soon in the u.s… ie: hoverboards – bunnie

26 min – # of ways to look at the market.. 1\for engineer: sort of thumbing thru catalogs/pics.. and very slowly going thru specs sheets to find what you need…… and you come here.. and there are stalls..and you can just reach in and touch them.. and play with them.. not just a showroom.. once you find what you like.. can buy like 1000 for cheap.. – bunnie

27 min – can get phone cover replaced cheap/fast.. people there that just do that.. just learned on own

huge amount of acquired knowledge/skills – piece together an make mobile phone.. no where else in world you can do that – chip set less than $15.. fantastic resource for some of start ups.. that philosophy spread out .. in china – duncan

28 min – whole city works like this.. specialized jobs.. so.. everyone knows each other.. working together to make things.. what takes yr outside shenzhen takes like 3 months inside

29 min – come here to start a business.. go thru apprenticeship.. then get a booth… skills learnt thru mentor.. this is the method

maker – excitement on how open this is ..everything available.. but in west  binary distinction between maker and start up.. maker for fun.. but when starting to make into business.. forget about sharing/open.. but here.. very little differentiation/binary ness of maker (fun) vs start up (profit) ….. maker and start up in china is a continuum.. you shouldn’t been stopped from making money out of thing you love to do.. and shouldn’t be forced between open and proprietory just because want to become a business..- david li – programmer, hacker, maker, and foreman of Xinchejian hackerspace in Shanghai. Now also urban farming with aquaponics.

binary ness

31 min – imitations same quality as original.. ie: iphone

31 min – bunnie: in west.. idea that i can have co that produces nothing.. has ton of patents.. but produces money by suing everyone for rights to patents.. don’t have inventors but have lawyers.. making money off buying ip and trading it.. weird.. that you can produce nothing and make a lot of money.. the idea that you can take an idea in a world that’s this big and say that exactly one person owns the right to it globally.. ie: apple.. really? seriously?.. this is the world we’re going to live in.. we just give people monopolies thru ip system for 20 yrs because first to file.. made sense back in less innovators..less connected world.. in china.. ecosystem.. let’s trade.. need others..  build networks of collab by sharing in this open source philosophy – 

32 min – we expect everyone that comes here to patent.. but we don’t expect them to fight anyone that’s copying them.. we expect them to move much faster than anybody’s who copying them… use of patent: when get in patent trade offs.. not to copy.. way to get people from copying.. make what they’re coping irrelevant because you’ve come up with something much better… – duncan

33 min – huge barrier to co’s in u.s. – patents/copyrights.. legal challenges.. spend huge portion of money on lawyers/ip filings.. – bunnie

34 min – hoverboard story.. duncan

35 min – my understanding was that the early shanzhai (imitation of trademarked brands or electronics) .. ie: nokia, motorola,… people that got sick of management.. cut the fat.. they would quit.. talk to friends..get together parts.. and build copycat phones..  – bunnie

36 min – the idea of robin hood.. try to empower poor with latest development in tech – david li

when talk about people who copied.. talked like.. it’s open source that just not yet open source.. ie: shematics in desk.. i will conveniently help myslef to them.. was that stealing or opensource.. in west called theft.. out here called sharing.. – bunnie

38 min – people from west.. used to month long development cycles.. and here overnight.. when actually been honed.. over years of factories and working together.. – bunnie

39 min – once could copy.. could start mashing up.. innovating.. – bunnie

40 min – west: come up w something new.. and make it successful.. china: look at something already on market and create better version/quicker.. not copying..evolution..

41 min – the sharing .. let’s guys.. try try try – building variants servicing gives it the phenom ecosystem.. – bunnie

co’s realizing the importance of having new ideas.. and being different..

45 min – at least 26% of tech from silicon valley actually comes from shenzhen .. hire headhunter so to speak..becasue so much innovation.. we are at min 8-12 month ahead of tech..- richard chiang

46 min – china bored about this business model.. we make it here.. credit for someone else

47 min – we have a lot of opp here.. our focus should be.. let’s create a quality product.. so we can be proud this is made in china .. focus on new tech/braning/quality.. i think in 5 yrs people will have diff perspective of made in china – richard chiang

48 min – after 35 yrs.. no longer unique ness in shenzhen.. policy all over china.. it’s kind of a catch 22..  recognizing achievements.. but inherent.. how are you going to make it better – jaun du

49 min – govt pushing manufacturing to outer of shenzhen

51 min – go to conferences.. lots of chinese.. they want to learn

now shanzhai is not about copying.. shanzhai is a spirit – it is a spirit of the bottom and grass roots… the shanzhai are the most creative, influential people in china

in past 20 yrs.. everyone who wants to make it in silicon valley.. have to go thru small tight process.. thru vc’s.. young white males.. controlling how tech will be developed/applied/available to gen public.. that is the very defn of control econ – david li

52 min – matter of getting critical mass of people to buy into: rather than fighting over patents.. if .. we all do good jobs.. lets just figure out how to innovate

52 min – lates 90s.. gates speaking about how opensource is communism and will destroy industry.. and today.. microsoft is one of most supportive of open source… it’s a mindset change but the future is possible – david li

53 min – people here have figured out a way to co exist.. with the rule of law.. and the way life needs to run.. they sort of look the other way at the right times.. – bunnie

56 min – not a good track record so far of govt getting involved .. ie: inevitbal process of gentrification.. artists starting it all can no longer afford to stay.. so i have a concern for these tech sectors.. the govt in trying to support it inevitably formalize it.. – juan du

57 min – on city changing as you walk thru it.. tear down and build high rise.. – bunnie

in china a gen lack of awareness.. of gentrification..

1:00 – talking line.. where one side is iwan baan and rebel architecture ish..

1:01 – lot of upcycling going on – i hope it stays –  but.. that’s the stuff that’s going away.. but these people are innovative.. they ‘ll build something else.. – bunnie

1:04 – just like coming off cold war.. everyone has to sort of ease off.. universally agree that we need to have a new paradigm – bunnie

problem.. the militarization of ip has really benefited big co’s ..if they back of stance of having huge cashes of ip to nuc little companies that come up.. they’re threatened.. by innovation.. and so instead of openness.. seeing opposite.. calcification.. so entrenched can’t move on.. then very flexible ecosystem like china.. will roll over them.. – bunnie


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