jim dator

jim dator

intro’d to Jim here:

My approach to curating C2 https://t.co/9Hwmh0f9fI ‘Any useful idea about the future should appear to be ridiculous’ – Jim Dator

Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/stoweboyd/status/702610887224459264

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useful idea about future ridiculous


why futures studies – 2012

future is unpredictable.. but i’ve worked to narrow them into 4 categories.. 4 futures: 1\ continued econ growth 2\ econ fall 3\ disciplined 4\ transformation

alt view essential – viewing world as a whole.. and .. paying attention to local needs


2014 – Generation Anthropocene “Future Sciences”

to create future want… given images available.. image i use.. surfing tsunamis..

we tend to focus on one wave.. rather than sets of waves that are coming.. this is our level of discourse

7 min – 1987 book – to govern evolution, by anderson – and now because of our awareness of what we have done to nature… it would be necessary for humans to govern/manage this process. .. and we don’t have a clue how to do that… yet our actions are constantly changing this society…

9 min – analogy of teenager… on puberty.. own experience of diff body/psychology.. would be nice if they could wait till older/smarter.. but can’t..  once process has started.. it’s going to happen and you have to learn by doing.. that’s where we are now.. in a situation in which humans have modified everything about nature in more/less profound ways.. but non trivial…

10 min – when did this start..? in some ways goes back to crash and burn about hunger gatherer societies.. definitely from industrial…there is nothing natural about farms .. cows aren’t natural… we’ve modified it all..

i would say .. very first hoe .. was knife into mother nature’s heart.. .. and all the governance that goes into that… and now w/ industrialism… putting stuff into atmosphere et al…

so present time.. living in a world that is increasingly artificial

science of people in schools ness et al

13 min – humans are meant for earth.. not any other environment.. so if talking about leaving our cradle.. we have this dilemma.. do we take a little earth with us… that’s the dominate option.. that means we are learning how to govern evolution.. living in an environment we have designed…. go ie’s to look are in space communities… if they’re successful (so far none are) in developing complete biodomes.. then maybe we’ll learn it for 22nd cent…

15 min – the other option.. not modify rest of universe to be like earth.. but modify us to live ie: on mars on moon.. as they are now… there fore whole development of robotics, ai, et al… might very well be seen as our children/successors.. in the 4th stage of reproduction..  … before .. just repeated same thing… xerox.. so if now.. in process … we’re transforming humans into post humans into trans humans… that can live in world we weren’t meant to live in …

16 min – the world we’re supposed to live in.. is hunter gatherer societies….  the problems we have.. wars/psych… are because of the strain placed on body/mind…. on the un natural ness..  of society as is now..

17 min – so the question is .. what is future of humanity… we are so substantially modifying this earth… so many forces pushing us toward novelty.. that we live in a very exciting time.. you no longer can take past for granted.. we have given you a completely new world to invent… is there any place in world that is helping us face this kind of future.. any thing that’s not just a replication of past… i don’t think so.. what we learn is more historical than futuristic

19 min – world may appear frightening to us… (older) but should be enlightening to you

a nother way

for (blank)’s sake

20 min – hawaii is completely unsustainable.. unless global econ system keeps growing.. so .. any thing that teaches.. basic agricultural survival skills… this future is a positive one and not a fearful one…


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James Allen (Jim) Dator is Professor, and Director of the Hawaii Research Center for Futures Studies, Department of Political Science, University of Hawaii at Manoa. He received his BA from Stetson University where he graduated magna cum laude. Seven years after that he received his PhD from American University.

His major areas of specialization include:

  • Political futures studies (especially the forecasting and design of new political institutions, and the futures of law, education, and technology)
  • Space and society, especially the design of governance systems for space settlements
  • The political-economic futures of North America, the Pacific Island region, and East Asia, especially Japan and South Korea
  • Media production and the politics of media– video, radio, and multimedia production and the effects of these media on political and other human relations andconsciousness

He is also:

  • Co-Director, Space & Society Department International Space University, Strasbourg, France.
  • Fellow and member of the Executive Council of the World Academy of Art & Science,
  • Secretary General/President of the World Futures Studies Federation, 1983-93.

In the 1970s, while teaching at the University of Toronto, Dator was hired by Canadian educational television network TVOntario, to work on educational programming related to futurism. As part of his duties he filmed educational introductions and conclusions for Jon Pertwee-era episodes of Doctor Who aired by the channel.


Esko Kilpi (@EskoKilpi) tweeted at 7:04 AM – 28 Oct 2017 :

“There is no such thing as the future. Instead, there are a multitude of alternative futures, of possible futures” https://t.co/bme11mgW9I (http://twitter.com/EskoKilpi/status/924260517648195585?s=17)

We need more useful ways to consider and prepare for what happens next.

7 bn.. everyday.. as the day

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way