geoffrey on something revolutionary

Geoffrey West: “Metabolism and the Hidden Laws of Biology” | The Great Simplification #117 – april 2024 – 100 min video

via michel bauwens tweet [https://twitter.com/mbauwens/status/1776322302231056635]:

A must-watch conversation with the scaling expert, Geoffrey West * Geoffrey West: “Metabolism and the Hidden Laws of Biology” https://youtu.be/my9a9Ftr7ek?si=naZGWGQ82rUB7H-J… via @YouTube “On this episode, physicist Geoffrey West joins Nate to discuss his decades of work on metabolic scaling laws found in nature and how they apply to humans and our economies. As we think about the past and future of societies, there are patterns that emerge independently across cultures in terms of resource use and social phenomena as the size of a city grows. Does Kleiber’s law, which describes the increasingly efficient use of energy as an animal gets larger – also apply to human cities? How have humans deviated from this rule through excess social consumption beyond a human body’s individual metabolic needs? *What could we learn from these scaling laws to adjust our communities to be more aligned with the biophysical realities of energy and resource consumption? Can an understanding of social metabolism impact our social metabolism?”

*ie: need means (nonjudgmental expo labeling) to undo hierarchical listening as global detox so we can org around legit needs

notes/quotes:

41 min – hard to see how we can sustain things as they are.. that statement includes the effects of innovation.. ‘all’ it does is postpones problem till later.. but unfortunately the dynamic of positive feedback and super linear scaling leads to the speeding up of the pace of life.. so have to do things faster/faster.. eventually leads to socio economic heart attack.. how do you get around that? have to change something fundamental..t that’s something to do with .. if you believe any of this.. social networks/interaction.. which means it has to be almost something revolutionary in the way we interact with each other and form communities..t ultimately that’s not a scientific question but a political/spiritual question

ie: imagine if we listened to the itch-in-8b-souls 1st thing everyday & used that data to connect us (tech as it could be.. ai as augmenting interconnectedness as nonjudgmental expo labeling)

45 min – nate: addict can’t solve addiction until awareness.. can we change our metabolism as a culture w/o realizing we have a metabolism

46 min – yes.. but i don’t know what those are.. it’s very hard not to be pessimistic.. until you take it out of the context of materialism.. and the idea that paradigm shifts and innovation means tech.. needs to also have that idea of a paradigm shift or rebirthing needs to be something that is socio economic.. and how you do that i don’t know ..t i would love to think it could be bottom up.. but my experience tells me it has to have some leadership..

there’s a legit use of tech (nonjudgmental expo labeling).. to facil a legit global detox leap.. for (blank)’s sake.. and we’re missing it

legit freedom will only happen if it’s all of us.. and in order to be all of us.. has to be sans any form of m\a\p

1:11 – to cities.. you should be cognizant of these scaling laws.. hidden dynamic.. if violate them run into trouble..

1:16 – on using data to show ancient cities followed these scaling laws.. on what you could use for proxies.. and what are you going to measure

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