‘how old do you have to be to make a bad drawing?’ – @NearSitedMonkey..t

adding page this day (via austin kleon rt – image above from link and linked to drawing ‘has to come out of your body‘ – Lynda Barry says young artists follow the movements of their own hands rather than setting an intention for a drawing..t):

no agenda.. no train

NPR (@NPR) tweeted at 8:47 PM – 29 Nov 2019 :
“What happens at about the age of 5, when people enter the school system,” says comic Lynda Barry, “is that drawing and writing become split. That’s when there’s some idea that those two things need to be moved away from each other.” https://t.co/eDWh68Xwvn (http://twitter.com/NPR/status/1200622240070373377?s=17

What do you think about the idea of genius?

I don’t know. You know, it’s like the term “fresh bread,” right? It could mean anything. … I guess what I mean by that would be that they’re able to do stuff in a way that I can’t track back to how they were able to do that thing..t Sometimes that even applies to 4-year-olds that I work with.


mcleod explain law

You suggest that something happens around age 4 or 5 that shuts down that magical way of seeing.

Via language, the only thing 4-year-olds can’t do is write rapidly. They can do everything else. And so, what happens at about the age of 5, when people enter the school system, is that drawing and writing become split. That’s when there’s some idea that those two things need to be moved away from each other. Even to the point, you know, where we start looking at books that have more words than pictures

Their drawings seem to come from the movement of their hands, rather than an intention. … That’s why I think that when kids [are] tested — to see if they’re smart enough to go to some cool kindergarten or whatever — and they’ll tell kids to do things like draw a circle, draw a triangle … those ways of testing kids’ aptitude are sort of false. And again, based on assumptions that people who quit drawing a long time ago make up about drawing.

not yet scrambled ness

1 yr to be 5 again

What assumptions are those?

That you know what you’re going to draw before you draw. That’s one of the things I’ve seen when people instruct kids to draw. … They start by telling them how important the paper is. You don’t want to waste paper. So, you want to sit and think carefully about what it is you’re going to draw before you draw it. … That’s not how drawing works at all. I’m sure there is some kind of drawing that works that way, but mostly it doesn’t.

When I’m making a comic, the drawing itself has a huge part in what happens with the [story]. Say I’m drawing a character, and I think maybe they’re surprised. And when I go to draw their eyebrow, maybe my pen slips a little and it points down instead of up. So now the character looks angry. But [with] that expression of anger on their face, the story takes a different tack that I didn’t expect. I’ve really learned to follow that — to follow what my hand is doing.

so resonating with – why do we erase.. et al.. who’s/what’s telling us to erase..?

xmas bug.png

That makes me think about what you said in the book about how drawing taps into stuff that maybe we didn’t imagine we were going to tap into when we started. And how some people have an urge to cover up their drawings or destroy them completely.

One of the things you’ll hear people say, when they tell me they wish they could draw, is, “I see it in my head, but I can’t get it onto the page.” And then I have to remind them that what they’re seeing in their head is not a drawing. Drawing is something that has to come out of your body. And that horror they have is the same horror they might have if a bodily fluid was suddenly released, like suddenly they got a bloody nose or started drooling. It’s that same shame about this thing that’s out of their control that seems to be coming from them.

My task — and it can be done within 30 minutes — is to get them past that. … The easiest way to do that is to have them close their eyes and draw. … The trick is to show them that there’s another kind of drawing that is very different than representational drawing.

Sometimes the drawing that’s left over is not as important as the fact that it can transform your mood. You can transform the way that you feel about something. You can crack you up. I mean, you can crack yourself up with an index card and a letter pen. I think it’s pretty interesting.

rheingold (mom) art law: not so much about the art  – but the conversation you have with yourself while you’re making/creating art




mcleod explain law

no words ness

language as control/enclosure..

embodiment et al

art (by day/light) and sleep (by night/dark) as re\set.. to fittingness