no train


same on issuu:


no prep


a nother way of whimsy/curiosity via hosting-life-bits ness

whyte plan/live law


Bruce L. Smith (@numbalum89) tweeted at 7:25 PM – 21 Mar 2018 :

I think that in any coercive system, what you see is more accurately described as “training,” not “learning.” (


Harold Jarche (@hjarche) tweeted at 6:14 AM – 18 Apr 2018 :

Training looks at how people currently do work and then gets others to replicate this. These are described as competencies, made up of certain, skills, knowledge, and attitudes. The assumption is that what works today will work tomorrow


zenext (@zenext) tweeted at 8:09 AM – 27 Jan 2011 :
@technoshaman: Jim Carse, In/Finite Games: To be prepared against surprise is to be trained. To be prepared for surprise is to be educated. (


huge to this.. fromm spontaneous law


mumford non-specialized law


voluntary compliance .. manufacturing consent.. wilde not us law.. freedom.. spinach or rock.. domestication.. et al

supposed to’s.. of school/work as cancer



nora on ed change

nora on ed change

[virus noticings]

nora bateson (@NoraBateson) tweeted at 2:48 AM on Fri, Mar 20, 2020:
Education is stalled, & there is a moment to make significant inputs into the possibilities of education for the future. Every move now matters. Rapid systems change is on. Every small move is part of every long term possibility.

I published this piece in September 2018 in the World Academy of Arts and Sciences Journal special issue on education. As we enter this confusing moment of Covid-19 isolation and systems change, it seems to me to be a moment to rethink most of the ossified patterns of the last centuries, and break free. Education is certainly at the core of this change. This is a long read, but maybe you have time…

Starting Monday March 23rd, will be doing a series of calls online for parents interested in mutual learning with their kids in discovery of complexity…Since the schools are closed anyway, we might as well completely rethink what education can be.

Putting the world back together now from the fragmented, decontextualized and silo-ed bits it has been broken into is a challenge that rests on the possibility of intergenerational collaborative exploration. To form and find interconnections will require humility and a new kind of attention to interdependent processes in complex systems. New sensitivity will be needed, new perception, new language, new ideas.

ai humanity needs: augmenting interconnectedness

To discuss changes in the education system so that it might better serve the citizens of tomorrow is to discuss system change across multiple sectors, nothing else will do.. The generations need each other, if there is any hope at all it is the relationship between generations, cultures, classes, and even species.

in the city.. as the day.. has to be all of us.. a people experiment.. global systemic change

Education change is system change..t

if equity is everyone getting a go every day.. redefining public education becomes revolution of everyday life.. aka: global equity

“…the systems involved in education, including the education system itself, the political system, the economic system, and the social system, are not particularly known for being able to adapt or change quickly. In fact, these systems are resistant to change. All of these systems are deeply intertwined and interdependent that any attempt to change in one will require massive changes in all of the others.”-Jeff Bloom

There is not enough time to educate 8 billion people in complexity theory. And yet, a widespread understanding of interdependency between ecology, culture and individual well-being is necessary to ignite the collective of the humanity toward new ways of living.

perhaps that knowing is already in us.. all of us.. and we just need to provide time and space for people to listen to/for that

less of an understanding.. more of a grokking/being

The vitality of living systems is found in their interrelationships.

thurman interconnectedness lawwhen you understand interconnectedness it makes you more afraid of hating than of dying – Robert Thurman

Compartmentalized and specialized knowledge has been rewarded, while an understanding of larger contextual process has been dismissed as un-measureable, unpredictable, and impossible.

measuring things, predictable ness, things thought impossible.. not ridiculous

New communication that can hold the non-linear processes of interdependency in living systems will be a baseline for developing new forms of socio-cultural community. What sort of an education system can do that? One that is not just an education system, but one that includes the many systems of society..t

ie: cure ios city.. with 2 convers as infra.. via tech as it could be..

There is no way to make shifts in socio-cultural systems without first making them in education. There is a loop here that it is easy to get caught in. Where should the change-making originate? In the schools? Or in the culture?

ie: supposed to’s.. of school/work – killing us

To get unbroken a breakthrough is needed. Systems change will require much more than curriculum change, but it cannot be done without a deep shift in the institution of education. It will require a transcontextual understanding of how life is.

rev of everyday life et al

So many mistakes have been made by finding solutions to situations that have been decontextualized.

whales in sea world et al

taleb center of problem law

Education about systems & complexity is not the same as education within systems and complexity.

in the city.. as the day..

stop teaching

The irony that an education thread of “systemic knowledge” can all to easily become another subject in the curriculum, when what is needed is a liminal realm for the other subjects to be de-separated.

ie: cure ios city

The patterns to study now are patterns of change. It is a tricky time to enter the study of relational process, just as the rhythms and cycles are becoming more unpredictable.

so maybe we let go of all that.. of having to study/research/define/predict

“If you want to build a ship, don’t drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea.” ― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

not sure we have to teach that yearning.. we just have to let go.. trust curiosity.. et al

“Warm Data” can be defined as: Transcontextual information about the interrelationships that integrate a complex system.

warm data

Thinking in complexity requires the ability to perceive across multiple perspectives and contexts. This is not a muscle that has been trained into us in school or in the work world.

it has precisely been trained out of us..  supposed to’s.. of school/work.. keeps scrambling our natural alive/ness.. curiosities.. et al

we all need 1 yr to be 5 again.. wake ourselves up.. return out shells.. et al

no train

What if there was a time between classes to study the liminal realms?

what if we quit using terms like classes and study.. and just go with daily curiosity.. what we just let the liminal realms be the day..

What are the similarities between history and algebra?

waste of energy..

In her book, Braiding Sweetgrass Kimmerer ..comprehension of the grass that is not located in any of the particular forms of description, but is somehow in between them


To describe education through a transcontextual lens is to begin to allow the many contexts within education to surface and co-exist.

or perhaps.. we quit trying to describe Ed

How can we support health in human beings by making it possible for each person to eat healthy food, sleep well, know that their families are supported, be respected in their community, have relevant contributions (education and employment), breathe clean air, and drink clean water?

by letting go of things like ed and employ.. supposed to’s.. of school/work and just facil daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city

Ability to perceive and respond to connection in life at all levels is an important contributor to a sense of belonging, not only in society but within the biosphere.

sense of belonging is a killer.. we shouldn’t even have to be thinking about ti

brown belonging law, askew unconditional law, .. et al

let’s just focus on 2 basic needs

In so doing, can such a learning environment give strength to students’ capacity to attend to each other and their communities?

even deeper.. to find/be their fittingness.. so that the dance (undisturbed ecosystem) can dance

‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows

focus on other people’s problems (in the name of care, work, whatever) has been a killer as well

 In that care there is the hope of finding new sources of our own vitality as an antidote to competition and thick-skinned cruelty.

perhaps that vitality comes simply from curiosity

The ‘my’ in my health is not mine; rather it is a consequence of my microbiome, my family, my community, and the biosphere being cared for.

but i think we miss that interconnectedness.. precisely when we focus on (observe and so mess with their  fittingness.. et al) others .. what we need is .. everybody .. listening to their daily curiosity.. and using that data to augment our interconnectedness.. get us back/to an undisturbed ecosystem

How can we interface with the complexity of our natural world so as to create less harm to the interdependence of all living things?

by trusting that what we need is already in us.. in 8b and counting.. of us.. so ie: bachelard oikos law et al.. becomes key

It is a mistake to think that young children cannot see or work with complexity. In fact, they tend to be better at it than most adults.

not yet scrambled..  1 yr to be 5 again.. no train

we need to let go of that hard won order.. entropy et al

Wilderness as a classroom is the original laboratory, playground and library of organisms in interaction..t

in the city.. as the day…. and has to be all of us.. everyone in sync

that’s why a time such as this (virus ness) .. where the supposed impossibilities (ie: people with more alone time in the day) seems a great opp.. to let go enough to re\set

How can we shift the economic system so that it is not based upon exploitation of nature and humanity –without crashing the globe into chaos? ..t

perhaps let’s try/code money (any form of measuring/accounting) as the planned obsolescence

ie: ubi as temp placebo..

At present it is not safe for a parent to encourage their children to prepare for a life in which they are not able to be breadwinners..t

perhaps the unsafe/risky thing.. is to do just that.. making us all fragile

maté parenting lawearn a living ness & no prep ness.. et al

How do we get the policy makers of our world to mandate cross-sector information for their decision-making processes so that they have the possibility of taking into account complexity?

by making sure they also have something else to do.. (ie: the thing-s they can’t not do).. and by letting go of decision making ness.. rather go with curiosity over decision making

The will of the people, if it is to have meaning in democratic process in the coming years, needs to be informed at a deeper level. Education of concepts such as complexity and transcontextuality will help encourage a more demanding population.

that’s just a form of what we already have.. need to let go of Ed ness.. and being informed ness.. the deep level would be to just listen to and facil daily curiosity

The more important question may be how to provide them with the suspicion and careful criticism to keep from getting caught in particular algorithmic echo chambers of click bait. Being responsible surfers of the landmine of tricky and often hacked stories online is not easy at any age.

so let’s quit doing that.. gershenfeld something else law et al will keep all that too much ness from happening in the first place.. ie: quit trying to figure out how to listen better to things that wouldn’t be there if we were all free art ists

The much easier sell is the story of adversaries, controversy and polarization.

only because we’re all like whales in sea world.. so let’s get the whales (everyone) out of sea world first

A more systemic approach with more perspectives might present another form of inquiry to engage the public in new ways. But this requires an audience that has an appetite for more substantial, rigorous information. It is a circular problem.

ie: cure ios city

something every soul already craves/hungers-for

Lives are at stake. As millions of refugees are fleeing ecological and political disaster, climate conditions become increasingly extreme, the wealth gap is widening, the interlinkings between these stories is critical to the development of public opinion.

so let’s quit playing around with part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake..  there is a nother way to live

What is the approach to open the global discussion about the pending fate of humanity? What matters? What are we willing change? How can we survive together?

2 convers as infra..  makes ‘discussion about pending fate.. what are we willing to change.. how can we survive..’ et al.. irrelevant.. and becomes simply a story about people grokking what matters.. everyday

A great deal of indirect learning is taking place about how to be a good student, how to succeed in the culture, how to be liked and so on.

supposed to’s.. of school/work.. killing us

The double bind of this era is that continuance of our species requires discontinuance of current means of survival. Business as usual is a swift endgame. Yet the rent must be paid, and breakfast must be possible. To live through next week is to take part in systems that are destructive to the future.

costello screen/service law

today we can have that mech in place.. now more than ever

And the paradox or dilemma which perplexes and dismays when we contemplate correcting or fighting against obsolescence is simply the fear we must lose coherence and clarity and compatibility and even sanity, if we let go of the obsolete.” (Bateson, Mind and Nature pp 207)..t

cahart harris entropy law et al

How shall we prepare them, how shall we guide their days, what shall we feed them at the table of ideas? This is a non-trivial question upon which the entire premise of intergenerational interaction is contingent..t

precisely by letting go.. stop guiding/feeding/prepping..

the not letting go enough.. is why we haven’t yet gotten to global equity (everyone getting a go everyday)

Given the lack of change toward systems of exploitation in past decades one has to wonder if older generations have enough existing knowledge and understanding of complexity to sufficiently ‘teach’ it to their students. Somehow education of complexity must take place through a new kind of interaction in which students can find their way into new applications of complexity that their teachers will be totally unfamiliar with. .t

ie: cure ios city.. sans ‘teaching’ training.. et al

Another way of putting this is that since the older generations are not proficient enough at complexity the best thing that can be done is to create an environment for this generative study and then get out of the way.

exactly.. let’s do that.. but for all of us.. (has to be all of us or it won’t work).. in the city.. as the day..

The most concerted and heartfelt efforts to do things differently often end up being repeats of the old ways with slightly different vocabulary..t


let’s quit doing that

good bye cycle et al

A few starlings in a murmuration will have a very hard time changing the movement of the group. They will have to be out of sync, and it is incredibly difficult to actually get out of the contexts that roll us from one day to the next. The pull is strong to stay in the flow of the many existing rhythms.

everyone in sync is key for the dance to dance.. this is why we need (and are in ripe conditions) to leap.. [aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]

Fissures, and confusion are needed.

carhart harris entropy law, et al

Art is especially needed, and, to be around people that do not see things as we do.


let’s do this firstfree art-ists.

We need curiosity, but we also need adventure, humor and most of all willingness to feel the pain of loss.

let’s just facil daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city

Sensitizing anew is like fish learning to fly, and it may seem impossible at first.

“When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.” –The Queen, in Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll..t

let’s focus on 33 min a day.. ie: 2 convers as infra

via tech as it could be.. (listening to every voice first thing everyday.. and using that data to augment our interconnectedness)


virus noticings

ie: leaping to a nother way to live is possible

bartlett expo law

jordon on crisis into opp

nora on ed change



nora on voice-change

nora bateson (@NoraBateson) tweeted at 6:06 AM on Sun, Dec 22, 2019:
The meta message matters…
Tim Adalin and I discuss the voice of change.. And the change of voice. #systemschange

convo on voice with Nora and @tim_adalin of voiceclub – (1:30)

6 min – n: the spaces between words where you don’t know what you’re going to say.. that’s important.. this is the warm data.. so how do we tell this story and include the warm data.. changing the rhythm/texture/tone.. so that that set of meta messages can begin to bubble up.. and i don’t even know what they are so i have to make space for them.. and this is not how you do media.. it should be scripted/concise/tight/whole.. i had to practice.. i didn’t know how to get there.. that discovery process has been going on finding a voice.. part of that is recognizing that it has to be a voice w room to learn in it.. it’s not like a schtick that i can just dial in.. turn on/off

detox/idio-jargon/self-talk as data – everyday anewcuriosity over decision making

9 min – tim: one of the most radical ideas i can begin to articulate is articulating this notion of what is it to be off script.. but nevertheless from an attention of authentic betterment of self/society.. if you allow yourself to drop in on that.. it is what it is.. it’s not clear what’s going to come up

imagine if we just focused on that.. 8b people.. everyday

off script ness

12 min – tim: it seems a necessity for us to create ways of being in the world that are not pre planned..t (jordan hall might call game a)

let’s just facil daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city

2 convers as infra.. via tech as it could be..

no train.. no prep

13 min – n: for me this is really an important piece because i’m coming into this from another angle.. the way i was brought into this body of work.. around complexity and systems thinking.. before i read all the books and did the academic work.. it was actually just how i learned to live life.. it was how the convos went at breakfast when i was a toddler

already in it ness.. this is why we can leap.. if there’s a mech (tech as it could be) in place to ground/detox the chaos (augment our interconnectedness))

14 min – n: people (systems) said.. these ideas can’t be put into that (film) form.. but the thing is i was coming from it in one direction.. the direction in which they were lived .. it took me a long time to really recognized that that was something i had to offer

15 min – n: one of the things about that is.. that if it’s not lived.. it’s still over there somewhere.. something you’re talking about.. and what i’m really interested in.. is that within.. when it is the deep mode from which you respond .. in the moment.. off script.. at that level.. what questions are you asking.. what’s bubbling up.. (so that not diff things ie: on and off camera)

16 min – n: when i was finding that voice in this world.. which .. didn’t really exist.. we have a community now.. back in 2009.. when i wanted to make a film about complexity.. everybody was like .. what.. if talking about bringing all together.. the voice.. deep impulses around which this defragmentation becomes expression.. becomes lived.. that’s key.. what does it look like to be in complexity and not be talking about complexity with whoever..

19 min – n: it’s a big shift from the whiteboard/ppt/competition.. (from) the forming of an id that has status in a particular set of communities.. to look to .. we’re just living life..

23 min – (tim asked to what degree fear/trauma play in blocking us from a more contextual relationship w being) n: i don’t know. . i don’t know where the edges are or if it’s worthwhile to make edges between identified diff emotional states.. we have a vocab/language/culture that loves to divide things.. t.. and remembering that there are very diff emotions possible to describe in other languages

language as control/enclosure

n: and also.. i don’t know.. can you have fear.. w/o love/joy/hope/hopelessness.. how can you separate hope and hopeless ness.. there’s that meme around fear that i kind of get allergic too.. it’s creates some binary that there’s some land w/o fear in which it would be more advisable to be having your responses.. but i don’t know about that.. my feeling is that when i’m afraid of something.. it’s probably telling me something that’s useful.. i don’t know how to .. w any kind of complexity in mind.. how do you know where the edge of you actually is

25 min – n: mental health and data gathering..  ‘how are we knowing what we know about any of this’ – what is mental health.. to deal w mental health.. we’re going to have to be talking about a lot more than people’s state of mind.. so then back in context.. you can’t separate.. to think we can get those grapes out of the wine and analyze.. i think we have to pause there

28 min – n: there’s been a feeding on the ghost in our culture that wants to eat memes and it’s driving me crazy.. it’s a river of memes out there.. it’s really difficult to get out of the memes.. gathering to gathering.. things that were said before..  ie: collective intelligence.. this notion is already starting to park..ossify.. another one is sensemaking.. both terminology i have use.. i’m just saying heads up..  the context we live in wants to jargon ize things.. when we jargon ize them we don’t look around the corner any more.. you’re not in that improvisational/off-script space anymore

this is why idio-jargon matters so much to our freedom

meme ness

30 min – n: we are in a double bind.. take the tension of (bound by) the script..  it’s not easy.. it’s a serious attention.. that’s what i’m really calling for.. to develop that attention.. that we are and we are w/in .. that i would call warm data.. that is actually not on the page.. what does it mean to work w that clay.. what it transforms is not the ideas.. but the space behind the ideas.. what is the petri dish.. from which these ideas are bubbling.. what kind of aesthetic are they.. and there your question of fear comes in again.. what is that.. that place from which.. it is scary..  ie: i’m scared for my kids in the world right now.. and i don’t think that fear misinforms me.. because i also love this beautiful world..

that space behind the ideas.. perhaps daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city

34 min – n: again.. it’s coming back to that notion of isolation.. isolation of the individual/emotion/idea/intention.. of the aspects of myself from which i’m speaking and trying to drop into that place with you here now.. where i’m still 7 yrs old.. who had all sorts of dreams/horizons.. and also this person now.. we are complex.. and that’s not just fodder for the groovy meme machine

40 min – n: on why are you leaving (marriage).. i could not bring my complexity to that question.. she asked me a question that was an invitation to reduction ism.. (concretism).. it was so culturally justified that i almost fell in the well.. we need to have room for understandings that need to occur to occur.. ie: i can’t be in complexity in this question.. and how many questions/surveys/discourses/technique/methodology.. are all gearing/limiting thinking into particular pre grooved possibilities.. and how are we going to get out of the mess we’re in if we don’t start to pay attention to the limits that get prescribed by the way/things that we express

this is huge.. language as control/enclosure

42 min – n: when i’m engaging w you.. i want you to feel like your complexity is welcome in this convo.. we’re not in a competition.. i’m not here to judge you.. i’m here to explore.. where we are together.. and that means i have to be really careful.. because the dignity i can offer .. is watching out for exactly that kind of question.. ‘why are you doing this’.. well .. if i give you an answer.. what will i not be able to say.. what have i prohibited from coming into the convo by the very aesthetic of the convo.. that’s why for me.. it’s really important to go into a very lively/looser.. but still very attentive.. hyper rigorous.. deep.. metaphorical.. exploration space.. i want to have that be something that is something comfortable.. but not like a soft chair.. like good hiking boots that make you want to go somewhere

or both.. no? ie: what does it mean to not go somewhere

50 min – n: i’m thinking about.. how we say what we want.. project: people need people.. what i’m noticing.. this convo turns out to be about voice.. about what it is to give/have/share voice.. this is a community question..  it’s only possible to be in a community w/in a particular set of possibilities..

yeah .. i don’t know about that.. finite set of choices et al.. i think that has been our man made myth.. but not our true being.. we’ve limited what it means to be in community

51 min – n: so.. one thing i’m noticing.. there are all these communities so deeply fragmented.. they need that list.. of everything (climate, mental health, ed, housing,..).. essentially all of those things are handled by diff institutions/orgs.. so the experience of being in community is often a process of having the health person come in and offer advice .. et al.. when dealing w this.. nobody ever asking the community what they want.. i’m going to let that sit for a moment and just feel the meme

not even about asking what community wants.. (because don’t really know ..if no solitude first.. and even if did.. someone\s would be oppressed).. this is why 2 convers as infra is so key

53 min – n: what happens is this.. ask the community what they want and they have absolutely .. no other possibility than to respond based on .. what’s on the menu.. and we’re back in the same epistemological double bind trap .. of everything that they can ask for being already compartmentalized/fragmented/siloed

yeah..  spinach or rock ness

54 min – n: so this is what i mean about what kind of voice/communication is given to offer a diff kind of response.. where there’s an invitation to go beyond the expectation of what’s on the menu..t

daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city.. via 2 convers as infra with tech as it could be..

n: if in restaurant and i ask what do you want to eat.. you’re going to think.. what’s on the menu.. this is an important way of looking at how we are w each other and how much generosity we can afford toward getting to a new dimension of questions/communication.. because right now it feels like we just keep driving ourselves back down the same holes.. because the patterns drive us there

55 min – n: that question of .. what do you want.. what is your vision for a new future.. what is game b.. part of that tension is around.. what’s on the menu.. what could game b be.. how do we begin to think about that in ways that are loose from the existing structures.. this is not a trivial matter..t

2 convers as infra

56 min – n: the need to de fragment as individuals.. to bring that 7 yr old here.. to this convo about complexity and this extreme emergency.. we have got to get .. to a little peek hole out of the epistemology frameworks we are in so we can even see another possibility..


57 min – n: so the love in that is loving that rigor.. that is not a relaxed love.. because i love this world/people/community.. i will not ask those questions that drive it back down in the same rabbit holes.. or just.. i’ll try not to.. even the tonality/humility of trying is big

1:06 – harari talking about free will.. if you think you have free will you really don’t have free will.. what’s on the menu is the neurocog response to everything we’re in..but the minute you know you don’t have free will.. it frees you up

yeah  as whales in sea world

 1:08 – n: daughter.. how can i be a good person when everything i do links me to this violent extraction..

costello screen service

1:09 – n: there has been a veneer that has been lifted for her and for a lot of people.. where there was an assumption that the structures we live in.. that they provided the structures w/in which you could be a good person.. but that man behind the curtain has now been exposed.. and so .. what do i say to my daughter.. there’s no responses of.. it’s all up to you .. it’ll be ok.. et al.. for a kid that awake.. so all i can say.. is.. as long as long as you’re asking that question.. you’re on the right track.. it’s not like she’s not doing good stuff – addiction – but that’s not enough..

1:13 – n: we’re in a generational moment of exploration all around us.. this new fibering of relationships.. and what is the language that we can even talk about this..t.. it is not bs

daily curiosity.. via idio-jargon

1:14 – n: how do we begin to work that together.. and help each other to go there because that’s what we need.. the ability to respond to the detail with an understanding of the context..

1:16 – n: it’s about how we are responding in the moment in detail with the complexity on board.. in bone.. in blood.. it’s about.. can you do this when it counts (dad’s hitchhiker.. adrenaline never spiked because of his response to a knife.. how didi you get yourself in this situation.. he didn’t respond to the knife.. he responded to the person.. you can’t game/script/plan that.. it requires deep/lifetime dedication to looking for contextual material in every detail.. )

1:19 – n: love in the sense of brokenness.. and capacity to be in your own brokenness and be w somebody else’s brokenness and go forward together.. if we’re going to script some stuff.. let’s think about what those stories can tell us.. who/how it’s possible to be

1:22 – n: and it can’t be hacked.. how we’re going to go forward w/o hacking the process of going forward.. and it’s really important that there’s a lot of care

indeed.. this is the security of idio-jargon .. 2 convers as infra.. et al

1:24 – n: what world was i invited to live in in which that was the communication possibility (dad hitchhiker story)

1:25 – n: so when i’m dealing w these questions around fear/unknown.. they’re not dangling meat.. i’m not out on the edge of a precipice.. because when i was little i saw it held in contextual affection and extreme rigor.. and there was humor.. the pain was never diminished but neither was the folly of humanity.. so that changes the positioning to begin with.. and maybe that’s something to be really working on.. how do we shift the baseline from which we’re even talking about the unknown

yes.. that’s it.. shift the baseline.. listen to and facil daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city

curiosity over decision making (or questions or whatever)

maté parenting law.. 1 yr to be 5 again.. et al

1:27 – this is why the memes are driving me crazy.. this need to present the possible future where we get it all right and we’re suddenly whole again.. all of that is actually gonna be really messy/kinky/weird.. it’s not going to make sense.. one of my fav complexity thinkers on the planet right now is cardi b.. she’s nailing it.. and it’s messy/funky.. the future doesn’t look like something clean/clear.. but to hold each other in the mess..  stop tampering w the sense making.. which are ok and which aren’t.. the guy w the knife.. there was no repression.. it was simply.. what have we here..


from Nic’s monday dec 23 2019 newsletter

Andreas Words

detox for the soul/heart


democracy not but miss

democracy not.png

(2019) by Astra Taylor

via denver public library:

astra's book.png

I suppose a library barcode is the best kind of barcode for democracy to be.

Original Tweet:



intro – living in the tension


democracy is the promise of the people ruling, but a promise that can never be wholly fulfilled because its implications and scope keep changing


political gridlock, corruption, unaccountable reps, and lack of meaningful alts incense people across the ideological spectrum; their anger simmers at dehumanizing bureaucracy, blatant hypocrisy, and lack of voice..


apathy, or even antipathy, toward self govt and the difficult daily work it requires is one of the stones that help pave the way to a more authoritarian society. that apathy is helped by the fact that the american system was never designed to be democratic to begin with.

as w many other liberalizing nations of the late 18th cent.. the republic did not consider the majority of its residents to be members of the polity ..enslaved and indigenous people, all women, poor white men, certain immigrants, and some religious groups were denied rights.. including the most basic right of citizenship, the right to cast a ballot

voting and rights both go against essence of humanity.. the denial is in assuming voting/rights et al are legit/essential/vital


the ineqs that plague us today are not an aberration nor the result of whichever party happens to be in power, but a plausible result of the political systems’ very design, which in crucial ways was devised by a restricted and privileged class of men

under a legal order where money qualifies as speech in the context of campaign spending and lobbying, the richest are able to purchase influence while everyone else struggles to be heard;..t

begs a mech that listens to every voice.. every day.. ie: tech as it could be.. with 2 convers as infra

because: curiosity and decision making

while earlier generations focused on expanding suffrage (right to vote) today we face an arguable more formidable task: saving democracy from capitalism

rather.. saving ourselves from any supposed to’s..

rather.. saving ourselves for eudaimoniative surplus

extending democracy from the political to the econ sphere is the great challenge of our age, and also the only way to protect political equality form the concentrated financial power that is proving to be its undoing

today.. we can go way deeper than ie: political equality.. rather to equity: everyone getting a go everyday.. just like democracy.. people beg a reset.. at least everyday

focusing on money is a distraction.. we need to get people to not even think about money ie: short bp


should we ever achieve a fully economically and socially egalitarian society, we’ll still have to strive to balance spontaneity and structure, for ie, or grapple w how best to weigh our present day desires against future needs

if we get back/to an undisturbed ecosystem.. we can let go of the grappling and weighing and striving to balance..

spontaneity and structure are already in us.. if we could just trust that


west: best ideas about justice often come form the very folk you thought you had no grounds for trusting in their ability to think and reflect..

unconditional ness


i don’t believe democracy exists; indeed, it never has. instead, the ideal of self rule is exactly that, and ideal, a principle that always occupies a distant and retreating horizon, something we must continue to reach toward yet fail to grasp.. the promise of democracy is not the one made and betrayed by the powerful; it is a promise that can be kept only by regular people thru vigilance, invention and struggle..

rather.. thru trusting our curiosities

thru theory and practice, organization and open rebellion, protecting past gains and demanding new entitlements, the inspiring potential of self rule manifests, but it remains fragmentary and fragile, forever partial and imperiled..

to me.. that’s not the potential of self rule.. ie: protecting/demanding entitlements et al..

if we let go.. and instead start inside 7b people everyday.. trusting that/us.. then we can become/remain antifragile.. and so.. because of the very fragmentary partial ness of us..

in the end, living in the tension embracing the incongruities and possibilities of democracy w/o giving up, is the message of this book

1 – free to be winners/losers (freedom/equality)


william f buckley: 1968 – ‘unless you have freedom to be unequal, there is no such thing as freedom’


while making my doc i asked dozens of people what democracy mean to them. ‘freedom’ was the standard and often instantaneous reply, as though that clarified matters and the concept’s meaning was self evident.

the people i met usually defined freedom as the chance to exercise choice and get ahead. for some – typically people from marginalized backgrounds – freedom was defined as the absence of fear..

no one, not a single soul in the us or elsewhere, told me that democracy meant ‘equality’


if i had prodded, perhaps the people i spoke to would have professed a commitment to the principle that human beings are intrinsically equal. maybe they simply took this equality as a given – an innate quality every individual automatically possesses simply by virtue of being born human.. and yet i don’t believe that equality went unmentioned merely because it was taken for granted..

freedom and equality have never been self evident, impartial terms, but are constantly evolving.. democracy has to cope w incredible human variation, a process that can require treating people unequally in order to ensure the possibility of something approaching just outcomes..

yes.. and thru detox even more so.. but.. we can get to equity (everyone getting a go everyday) if we focus on one same infra.. ie: 2 convers as infra.. but this begs .. no additions.. subtractions.. has to be for everyone in sync

freedom is not a state of independence but a state of interdependence..

declaration of interdependence.. ness


‘all men are created equal’ the american declaration of independence famously declares.. but the upper class owners of human chattel who penned and signed that doc counted each enslaved african as 3/5 a person, denied men w/o property and women the right to vote, and committed genocide against native people while illegally speculating on stolen land

for early american settlers, democratic ideas ‘gained strength and meaning thru frameworks of exclusion’ – aziz rana


(on abid against unfettered freedom): freedom for some can mean domination for others, since all are not equal. freedom/equality of what?.. and.. for whom?..

i’d say that’s because we have not yet experienced truly unfettered freedom.. it has to be all of us in sync.. and unconditional.. or it won’t ever work

today .. we have the make that possible.. ie: to facil that chaos


wendy brown (political theorist): ‘today there is no meaning of equality and freedom other than the meaning that you see in the market.. but the market itself is a domain of’s a domain of winners/losers. and winners/losers are therefore the natural outcome of a fully marketized democracy


for these reactionaries (to new deal) the threat of equality loomed large: workers w access to sufficient econ recourses are free to disobey their employer (just as a woman w sufficient means can leave an abusive spouse)

business week lauded the bill as a’new deal for america’s employers’: it outlawed sympathy strikes and secondary boycotts and ushered in the era of ‘right to work’.. the catchphrase for a policy designed to take rights away from working people and allow owners to extract more profit


when freedom is nothing but the liberty to pursue your own interest and enhance your own value, equality becomes the right to throw your hat into the ring and to emerge victorious or fail trying

friedrich hayek in the constitution of liberty 1960: freedom is ‘bound to produce ineq in many respects’ .. so any effort to mitigate ineq’s effects had to be abandoned lest overall liberty decreased (such efforts, hayek insisted, while carried out under the banner of social justice, were in fact motivated by nothin other than envy)

again.. not if it is truly unfettered.. which we haven’t yet tried


the development of industrial capitalism and the rise of waged factory work empowered and emerging class of econ elites to begin to alter the meaning of ‘free labor’.. even if toiled day/night in a mill/mine, earning only a pittance and packed int an urban slum

courageous figures such as ida b wells decried the stifled promise of emancipation and the lie of free labor..


real communism, then, would not be a crude leveling, but rather full equality, a way to liberate every individual to experiment and develop their true capacities..  as engels (1820-1895) wrote, ‘the possibility of securing for every member of society, by means of socialized production, an existence not only fully sufficient materially, and becoming day by day more full, but an existence guarantee in to all the free development and exercise of their physical and mental faculties.. this possibility is now for the first time here’

and even more so now.. equity (everyone getting a go everyday) via ie: tech (as it could be..).. that listens to and facils every voice/curiosity.. everyday

security, understood as equal access to the means to meet one’s needs, would be a basis for social freedom, not something we have to sacrifice liberties in order to achieve..

security.. maté basic needs

when would equality go too far and when would freedom need to be constrained?

never.. if we let go enough to truly augment our interconnectedness so that our undisturbed ecosystem kicks back in

how will we org ed and training, for ie, to create a common culture and knowledge base while also balancing people’s differing abilities and interests w society’s need for certain forms of expertise..t

all a matter if we trust curiosity.. no? (ie: taylor compulsory law et al)..  if so.. no training will be needed.. and i think we’ll find that those ‘certain forms of expertise’ we think society needs will either emerge.. or we’ll find out we didn’t really need them

even if opps for meaningful labor and leisure massively expand, there will still be plenty of work that must get done. goods will need to be manufactured and trash taken out and somehow safely dispose of – which brings us to the challenge no just of necessary or unglamorous tasks but of ecological limits.. perhaps the most significant restraint on our utopia of egalitarian liberation..  should capitalism as we know it cease to be, the conflict between freedom and equality will linger on

not if we let go enough.. if we do.. (let go enough).. i think we’ll find (as above) that those manufactured goods that no one is obsessed w/creating (because it’s their art – the thing they can’t not do).. weren’t/aren’t a necessity in the first place.. we just thought they were in our intoxicated state… and that ‘trash’ is really a different animal/concept.. when 7b people are truly free.. ie: we’d have more creative means to upcycle/recycle/peepoople et al..  we’d be creating little to no waste in the first place.. (if we trusted everyone‘s art/curiosity.. everyday)

it’s about equity (everyone getting a go everyday).. that would be our freedom.. equality is just about the opp.. equal opp.. to make everyday what each wants


throughout history, freedom has often been symbolized as a women..  though.. the vivid propagandistic portrayals and idealization stand in stark contrast to .. their subordinate social position thru the ages.. the american indian was, and still is, used a s symbol of liberty (while also being reduced to generic stereotypes)

indigenous peoples

peter martyr d’anghiera late 15th cent sent reports of a place where individuals lived as the ‘most happye of all men’ free from tyranny and toil, masters and greed, laws and judges.. ‘the seedes of all myscheefe have no place’ all thing being held in common.

another observer in 1615: ‘they hold that the earth belongs to no individual any more than the light of the sun

h&n property law et al


(on their kindness, warmth, humanity) .. the absence of social hierarchy was frequently commented on: ‘they have neither kings nor princes, and consequently each is more or less as much a great lord as the other’..  soon called ‘myth of the noble savage’

human history et al

threat to royalist status quo, which is why leaving the colonies to live among indian tribes was a crime punishable by death

influence by contact w indigenous people.. a radical concept of liberty began to circulate: liberty as equality and masterlessness’.. here for the first time, settlers saw freedom and equality, democracy, in action


inspiration for philosophers including john locke and rousseau.. and their writing s on the social contract. but were locke placed property rights above all and argued that indigenous people deserved to be deprived of their homeland because they did not max returns and ‘improve’ the soil the way british agri would.. there’s a reason the american founding fathers loved him – rousseau’s impression led to very diff conclusions.. rousseau insisted man was born free and equal in the state of nature.. it was the intro of private property that corrupted everything..t

h&n property law et al

rousseau: ‘the first man who, having enclosed apiece of ground, bethought himself of saying ‘this is min’ and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society. from how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes or filling up the ditch and crying to his fellows, ‘beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody”

same quote.. slightly diff..from hardt and negri ‘s assembly..  p 29

the first man, who, having enclosed a piece of ground, to who it occurred to say this is mine, and found people sufficiently simple to believe him, was the true founder of civil society…how many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors mankind would have been spared by whim who, pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had cried to his kind: beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget that the fruits are everyone’s and the earth no one’s‘.

for rousseau, this lost eden posed a challenge to the present while undermining the newly emergent myth of progress. european civilization was not some higher state or advancement over prior ‘primitive’ cultures. forward momentum could go in reverse, w positive attributes forgotten or suppressed in the frantic quest of improvement. modern civilization, not original sin, was the source of man’s defilement..

civilization ness


in the right kind of world, rousseau believed, everyone would participate in the general will together, willing for themselves as a people in common, which would result in perfect equality expressed thru the perfect freedom of self govt..

undisturbed ecosystem et al

the people, not the king, were sovereign, and their liberty manifested thru reciprocity, not coercion..t

perhaps one reason we haven’t yet gotten to global equity.. reciprocity is also a form of defilement/coercion/et-al..


every step of the way, the disparaged and dispossessed have placed those contentiously aligned terms, freedom and equality, at the center of the unfinished and unpredictable path toward that alluring but elusive horizon of self rule. it has fallen to them to broaden our democratic vista, in part because the marginalized are positioned to see truths the powerful cannot, or choose not to, perceive.

2 – shouting as one (conflict/consensus)


(on 2011 occupy) a basic truth: the rule of the people is incompatible w the rule of the rich

‘we are the 99%’ and the corresponding naming of the now infamous 1% got american stalking about class in away that hadn’t happened in my lifetime.. our society/econ, occupiers said, were being run for the few, not the many

99 and 1

while the rebels of egypt’s tahrir square or turkey’s takism gezi park may have been calling for basic human rights and fair elections, a core constituency of anarchists at occupy wall st understood real democracy to mean running everything by consensus..

public consensus always oppresses someone(s)

people would make decisions for themselves, w/o delegating tasks to reps, and everyone was to be included in the decision making, no matter how painstaking

but unless we start w individual curiosity .. first thing.. everyday.. decision making is delegating tasks (ie: what decisions to make) to reps

it’s not about being included in decision making.. it’s about curiosities being heard/facilitated.. everyday


a primer shared on occupy’s nyc general assembly website explained, ‘consensus is a creative thinking process: when we vote, we decide between two alts. w consensus, we take an issue, hear the range of enthusiasm, ideas and concerns about it, and synthesize a proposal that best serves everybody’s vision’

we can do so much better than that today..  we can go straight to everyone’s (daily) vision.. and facil that – via curiosity rather than issues

some evenings, standing in the dark w hundreds of others, repeating what a stranger had said so others at a distance could hear it, i felt as if i were a part of some great living, breathing poetry.. but even as i was almost moved to tears an appreciated being part of such a unique social experiment, i never believed i had joined  credible ie of a better form of govt..  i had read enough about the history of protest movements to know that the assembly would break down


eventually it did.. the consensus0seeking participatory ideal was untenable .. ie: early heated discussions over the drum circle in the far corner of the square foreshadowed troubles to come..

see.. energy spent on decisions we don’t even need to be making.. we wouldn’t be addressing.. if 100% of us were free..

the flaws were intrinsic to the decision making structure that had been adopted

the flaw is thinking we have to have a decision making structure (unless you want to call daily curiosity decision making.. in that case.. yeah.. so let’s use this structure: 2 convers as infra)

the long evening meetings favored those who had free time.. making equal participation a challenge for people w demanding works schedules or families to care for

the long meetings.. are irrelevant to everyday life anyway – better to go w 3 and 30.. as the day

because there were no membership requirements, people exercise rights w/o corresponding responsibilities..  w random visitors to the park raising their hands to support plans they had no intention of helping to carry thru

membership.. rights.. responsibilities..plans.. all irrelevant/cancerous.. to what the world needs most: the energy of 7bn alive people


(on fight breaking out).. the census based system promoted as  cure for the ills of mainstream democracy, had turned out to be unbearable, arguably more unstable and a good measure more ridiculous than the original disease

understandable disgust w an unjust system led to an overreaction.. they embraced a form of radical equality that was unsustainable in practice..


given our propensity to bicker, it seems reasonable to accept that our best bet for achieving a functional society is to devise a system that accounts for the constant conflicts of interest and tries to create space for constructive competition, allowing groups to have a fair chance of exerting influence of wining the day

imagining our propensity isn’t to bickering.. imagining we just believe that because we keep looking at and analyzing ie: whales in sea world; if instead we were all truly free.. there’d be no need for competition/influence/conflict..


consensus via graeber ‘everyone should have equal say (call this equality) and nobody should be compelled to do anything they really don’t want to do (call this freedom)’..   it’s this veto power that in theory, compels the group to find a solution that everyone finds acceptable..

only solution acceptable to everyone.. is for their voice/curiosity to be heard everyday.. is that they can spend their day.. doing/being the thing they can’t not do/be (ie: too busy for anything else/bad)

3 – reinventing the people (inclusion/exclusion)


at the heart of democracy is an abstraction ‘the people’.. an entity that is empowered to rule but does not tangibly exist..

the us constitution reflects this fundamental incoherence when it id’s 3 distinct populations inhabiting the same continent: ‘people’ or those entitled to rights/freedom; ‘other persons’ or the enslaved; and indians, who possess tribal sovereignty and are excluded from the body politic.. despite or because of this fundamental conceptual ambiguity, every democratic community, no matter how large/small has to struggle to define itself and its limits.. self govt is a perpetual negotiation over who is included/excluded, who is us/them.

wendy brown: ‘to have democracy there has to be a we. you have to know who we the people are.. it can’t just be a kind of vague universal thing’..  the ugly, bigoted history of exclusion makes it tempting to reject all exclusionary boundaries as inhumane//unjust.. at same time, such sweeping universalism risks making democracy either incoherent, since nearly 8 b people cannot practically make decisions together, or imperialism for it implies a single system governing everyone, everywhere

wow.. perhaps that’s why democracy ness has never resonated .. a basic premise is that there is a border.. between ‘we the people’ and ‘they.. not us’..? members/citizens and non-members.. non-citizens

democracy: a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

it has to be all of us..

8b can make decisions that matter (we just keep pretending/believing the decisions we come up with are the ones that matter) .. if the governing system is everywhere is based on an infra that truly sets all of us free.. everyday (perhaps there are no decisions that 8b people need to make together.. except that this is how our days should/could be)


arendt: ‘nothing sacred in abstract nakedness of being human’ being excluded from the category of citizen leaves individual profoundly exposed, despite their inclusion in the universal category of human being.

what this proves, arendt contends, is that rights are not inborn and ‘inalienable’.. instead they are agreed upon ‘socially construct’ as academic like to say.. we possess rights only when we are counted as members of a particular political entity that recognizes and ensure them.. paradoxically, citizenship – legal inclusion in a demos – is required if our human rights are to have any chance of being respected..

insane paragraph

rights are not inborn .. because they are.. as ridiculous/cancerous as money.. and property

nationality: human



but if an egalitarian situation is our aim, we will need to allow for one exclusion: there can be no space for those who divide so that they can dominate or exclude in order to exploit

can’t have that dangling ness..  who’s going to decide this..?

it has to be all of us.. unconditionally..

we have to realize/believe that all people want something different..

gershenfeld something else law would allow for it to be all of us.. no exclusions necessary.. because we need everyone for the dance (undisturbed ecosystem) to dance (everyone in sync)

4 – choose this or else (coercion/choice)


when is coercion legit? although the question is rarely framed so bluntly, it is one of the fundamental conundrums of democracy

wow.. another reason democracy ness has never resonated.. i’d say it’s never legit.. esp if you’re touting freedom

coercion et al

a democratic society demands that people engage in two simultaneous frameworks: deciding what can/should be done and .. what cannot/should not be done

ie: supposed to’s.. of school/work

cancerous to the energy we need most

democracy involves expanding possibilities and establishing limits; it comprises what we want to do and what we have to do. it is autonomous choice and constraining coercion.. a proper balance is often elusive.. even if we’d rather min coercion and max consent

imaging we’d rather disband with both

coercion, while often lamentable, is a democratic necessity

yeah.. don’t think it’s a humane necessity.. rather a poison

and choice while it sounds desirable, is not necessarily an unalloyed democratic good..  history after all, offers plenty of instances when people made choices w disastrous consequences for themselves and others..

because we’ve never really been free enough.. all of us at once.. to experience life in curiosity/undisturbed-ecosystem (call that choice if you want.. but it’s a completely diff choice ness than we’re used to.. focus isn’t on choosing things.. it’s on listening to heart.. to know what things matter.. and then having the bravery everyday.. to change your mind)..

undisturbed ecosystem: ‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole..’ –Dana Meadows

and there is no guarantee that a decision taken thru a democratic process won’t have antidemocratic effects.. putting part or all of the population at risk.. given this possibility, liberal societies cordon off certain precepts, protecting them from wayward citizens who would betray them

so us and them inside a system built on us and them ing..  aka: structural violence


we all possess rights of which we don’t have the right to divest ourselves.. (we say they are inalienable, even natural, which obviously isn’t the case or we wouldn’t have to vigilantly protect them)

while democracy is often defined as a system that relies on the consent of the governed, reality is hardly so simple. this common catchphrase belies the fact that we all know a whole lot happens that we citizens don’t even see, let alone consent to .. most of what govt does is a mystery to the avg person and no one, not even the most astute legal experts, comprehends all the innumerable and intricate laws that bind us

too much ness


human beings tend to accept that *some behavior must be forbidden if we are all to get along, which is why we outlaw violent crimes such as armed robbery and murder and pass ordinances dictating everyone drive on same side of road, and that people not dispose of trash in nearest gutter.. few of us feel coerced by such prohibitions..

i think *that is one of our problems.. accepting that.. rather than accepting all people unconditionally.. which sounds absurd.. only because we’ve been analyzing how humans are from looking at ie: whales in sea world

ie: robbery..not if no possessions; murder.. not if maté needs metjihad/white-right findings et al.. rather your own song ness; traffic.. naked streets.. less cars.. et al; trash.. would have a completely diff mindset/upcycle system if everyone weren’t so intoxicated w consumption and exhausted from trying to support that consumption.. et al

in an ideal world, even the most die hard rebels would always decide to do what is right for the group. but we don’t live in such a world, so coercion is used when people don’t choose properly..t

we in such a world.. which is not a ridiculous idea.. what is ridiculous is that we think ‘coercion when people don’t choose properly’ .. is working.. or ever would work..

we generally accept that some indivduals, sometimes even we ourselves, must be coerced into being good citizens

1\ if coercion is involved.. it’s not being good.. it’s being obedient.. 2\ good ‘citizens’ ness.. is what begs for coercion to work (and it doesn’t)


the word properly and good are, however, red flags, who decides what qualifies as the correct, better choice.. how do we determine *how much coercion to mete out.. the problem is not just proportionality and ensuring that the punishment fit the crime.. but who makes the rules

*none if we want alive human beings.. and an undisturbed ecosystem

hard to believe and trust.. but that’s not because it’s not possible.. it’s because we’ve not yet tried it.. so we just keep judging our capabilities/possibilities by look at whales in sea world

a tweak to taylor compulsory law: this is really what the whole debate over compulsory schooling coercive democracy is about .. do we trust people’s capacity to be curious or not

this battle can be hard to discern, because even in a democracy, the powerful few look for ways to coerce the many while insisting that those they subjugate either deserve or have chosen their fate. they distract us from more compelling and challenging convos about *when coercion is legit, **how choice can be enhanced, and ***how creating a free society of equals inevitably involves restraining ourselves..t


**cure ios city .. with..2 convers as infra

***i don’t think so – not yet tried.. don’t know


on stanford encyclopedia of philosophy’s entry on ‘coercion’.. group of people in addition to hardened criminals appears to need to be coerced unequivocally: children

i had an unusual childhood.. my parents.. mother in particular were outspoken proponents of what they called ‘noncoercive parenting’..  so it was my decision whether to go to school.. stay at home.. nap, play, read..


the frame of noncoercion, though, sets up something of a false opposition. over time, wild folk’s founder, polina malikin, came to that conclusion too. ‘.. assume there’s some sort of blissful presocial state..’ *which ultimately doesn’t exist.. ‘while i think it’s important for kids to have a say and make decisions together and run a school together, **there is some wisdom that elders have that is important and needs to be passed on

**true.. which would happen *naturally and blissfully.. in the city.. as the day.. if everyone were truly free..

she’s basing her conclusion on a school setting.. a nice albeit.. but still not a free undisturbed ecosystem..  where daily curiosity is faciling everything

‘noncoercive’ implies a kind of limitlessness.. but there are real limits.. the environ is coercive.. ‘ eco responsibility.. imposes its own inhere restrictions

ok.. but that is more a listening than a coercion.. if we were truly free.. and back to our indigenous selves.. we would be in tune with the environ.. a dance.. call that coercion if you like.. but it’s not the environ telling us what we have to do.. it’s us listening.. and doing/being.. because of euduaimonia/love


hannah arendt: truth she insisted is fundamentally coercive

perhaps.. but what is truth.. there’s more we don’t know.. and likely much of what we know we’ll find not so absolutely true..


in daily life, plenty of encounters and exchanges are presented as a free choice when the outcome is preordained, or when we are pushed/nudged down a certain path.. what’s called choice architecture shapes every move we make.. ie: appealing walkways; bureaucracy; computer code..

the distinction between *incentive, persuasion, influence, manipulation and coercion constantly blur.. regardless of where those lines get drawn, the fact is our choices rarely qualify as ‘free’

all of those are unnecessary/cancerous.. your folks were right.. they just weren’t able to experiment w non coercion in a big enough ecosystem.. ie: it takes all of us for it to work..


despite being based in speculative fiction more than anthropological fact, social contract theory serves as a conceptual cornerstone of liberalism as well as contemp econ and legal discourse. this much is true: one foundational rationale for our modern democratic system is essentially a glorified intellectual fairly tale

contracts et al

thomas hobbes.. what motivated humans to come together to form a community in the first place.. his answer was a desire for security.. to protect personal safety.. he maintained that there was no possibility of a community, no justice and no propriety, if a sovereign of some kind didn’t have the authority to oblige his subjects to behave themselves, providing a ‘coercive power to tie their hands from rapine and revenge’.. ‘where there is no coercive power erected, that is where there is no commonwealth, there is no propriety.. all men having a right to all things’

what naturally motivates people to come together is maté basic needs..  no coercion/propriety/rights needed there

propriety: the state or quality of conforming to conventionally accepted standards of behavior or morals.


coercion from on high, hobbes maintains, is simply the price to pay for living in civil society, utter submission and subjugation the only way to impose order and ensure survival

oi.. civilization and entropy .. et al

fundamentally, social contract theory is about trying to understand the legitimacy of political authority – a worthy inquiry if there ever was one..  on what grounds should we obey the king or the govt

hobbesian cynicism about human nature: we consent to forms of authority, cooperating and acting morally , due to a rational assessment of how we might max benefit, not out of concern for others or for larger ideals..  a strikingly limited way to comprehend the origins and purpose of govt and the motives of human beings

human nature.. human history .. et al


in locke’s view, not only were indigenous people outside the social contract, but their way of life, based in communal ownership, prevented execution of the contract.. communal ownership had to be eliminated and private property imposed so that the american ‘pursuit of happiness’ a phrase coined by locke, could commence

hardt/negri property law


what’s the diff between an armed robber and a private health ins co if both present the following option: your money or your life.. it’s hard to say a person lacking the funds to pay for urgent medical care enjoys much in the way of meaningful options..t

so true

sicko et al


sheldon wolin in politics and vision: ‘the compulsion arising from a system of property’..t

commerce alone is not capitalism; rather, capitalism, or a ‘system of property’ emerges when the possibility of trade becomes the necessity..t

capitalism ness and hardt/negri property law

historically the modern capitalist paradigm was born at the moment that these market imperatives took over the production and provision of life’s most basic necessity: food.. after enclosure, when people could no longer farm common land for subsistence.. but had to produce in excess for the market and its profit motive.. capitalism’s power was on display

agri surplus ness


today when we talk about capitalism we typically speak of the problem of ineq, highlighting financial disparities.. but the coercive aspects of capitalism, the ways in which our individual choices are constrained and whole societies are compelled to submit to the rule of money, deserve as much attention as the deprivation of poverty.. ie: med/childcare/uni debt


citizenship became synonymous w consumption..t


on the job, we accept our subjugation to a form of private authority that essentially operates in a dictatorial mode – that is, we accept that our bosses are entitle to boss us around.. ie: dress; sm; how we spend off hours; drug test; track movements; deny wages.. we have somehow accepted that the world of work is outside the reach of democracy..


the state became public only because people fought to make it so.. thre’s no reason same shojld not one day be said of th ecorporations tha tnow govern so much of ourl ives..

if democracy is a system where the people consent to the rules that govern them, then it follows, paradoxically, that people might wind up being less individually free in a functioning democracy than in another system..

but when we do not live in a functioning democracy.. find it is our democratic duty to break laws if at least some of them are unjust.. we call this refusal of consent civil disobedience..t

zinn obedience law


martin luther king called it (civil disobedience) a ‘constructive coercive power’

yeah.. see.. there’s a nother way to live.. rather than spending our time chasing down what’s bad.. than coercing people away from bad.. ie: something every souls is already craving.. something every person already is.. if free enough to be it


forging a new more democratic social contract require a massive withdrawal of consent and a coordinate campaign of constructive coercion.. it also requires how we think about coercion and choice..  over the centuries, capitalism has disguised coercion as choice..

i think democracy – as laid out here.. is/has/will be doing much of the same.. smaller cancer still kills..

we have the means today .. and so can’t not.. go beyond constructive coercion.. let’s facil a leap.. where 7b people are free enough to live in an undisturbed ecosystem (in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole)

under more democratic conditions.. coercion should be openly discussed, subject to deliberation and debate, so that we might consider the option of minimizing coercion in every realm of life.. t

we have the means to make it irrelevant.. (max of min).. let’s do faciling daily curiosity  ie: cure ios city

5 – is this what democracy looks like? (spontaneity/structure)


athenian democracy 508 bc – breaking down traditional centers of power based on kinship and religion and binding people in new affiliations based on place.. ie: neighborhood govt; civic tribes; city boards (over saw social welfare and city’s finances and coinage).. tons of reps; council meeting up to 300 days a year.. combining rotation in office

doesn’t really matter how local we go and how many reps/rotations we have.. if still basing things on ie: finances and coinage.. humanity needs 7b reps.. everyday.. sans money (any form of measuring/accounting/rep-ing/contract-ing)


the creation of this community of citizens involved a balance of two conflicting elements that remain crucial to democracy to this day: spontaneity and structure..

fromm spontaneous law.. structure/less ness


emma goldman or mark twain or ?: ‘if voting could change anything it would be made illegal’..t

voting ness


today, alt ways of structuring and counting the vote that would remedy or even cure the current system’s imbalances are ignored or dismissed as outside the realm of possibility..t

today, alt ways of living (sans voting) that would make our current system irrelevant.. are ignored/dismissed outside the realm of possibility

ie: cure ios city.. in the city.. as the day..


60s and student rebellion and counter culture..

beyond democratic surround .. today we have means to re:wire


the *very electoral process that people fought so hard to expand may be democracy’s undoing.. this moment calls for a **leap on the scale initiated by cleisthenes,..t.. and perhaps one inspired by him.. selection by lot may not be the perfect solution to the problems we face, but it suggests that other, radically diff ways of structuring political participation and incorporating spontaneity are possible..

*yeah.. let’s **leap to this..  a nother way.. sans voting/lottery.. et al

6 – a socratic mob (expertise/mass opinion)


turns out honeybees are arguably the earth’s most numerous, longstanding, successful and endearing democrats..t

just after this yesterday: 20 000 bees follow car 2 days to rescue queen

we can get to this level of love/devotion.. if we let go of the waggle dance

the queen.. as central part of ecosystem.. she is no monarch , but rather a mother.. keeper of colon’s genetic health.. beyond choosing how many eggs to lay and the gender of her offspring (majority female).. she oversees no other crucial decisions.. these are made in an astonishingly complex, egalitarian manner by  100s or 1000s of bees, depending on the circumstances.. these bees are the queen’s daughters but not exactly her dependents; we call them worker bees, but they are self managed and have no boss..


of the several 100 scouts, only a minority discovers anything of value (on deciding possible home sites) and returns to perform what’s called a waggle dance..  the better a site, the more persistent and emphatic a bee’s movements are as she aims to recruit her sisters..

see.. this is great.. we think.. but we can do so much better than this.. no persuasion/recruiting needed.. ie: waggle dance ness and undisturbed ecosystem ness

when a quorum of bees gathers at a single site, it signals that consensus has been reached and the matter settled.. t

spontaneity/humanity doesn’t fit w settling.. we don’t have to settle.. in fact.. in order to stay/be alive .. we need to have the bravery to change our minds everyday

(still on bees)* everyone has a chance to be heard, and everyone is an expert in the **task at hand.. there is in fact, no such thing as a ‘hive mind’


**mistake for humans – we need to listen to curiosities first.. and facil via those.. rather than around some task.. no matter how noble

ie: tech (as it could be) that listens to every voice/curiosity everyday.. and facils us locally.. accordingly.. that day..


‘we’ve never seen a bee get excited about an option, a potential home site, simply because she saw another bee excitedly dancing for the site.. each bee will get excited about a site only after she’s made her own personal inspection of *it.. and that is a very important part of the accuracy of the decision making’ – thomas seeley.. people have fads/trends.. can lead to poor decisions.. the bees never run that risk

agree.. if we change the *it from home site to daily curiosity..


on student debt.. this burden shapes how they see their studies..

so too the coercion of a pkg deal degree/whatever


when ed is an investment and not a right, pleasure or duty, student sneed it to yield a return

same with duty ness and rights ness..

pleasure/curiosity is the only focus that will change things


swaths of knowledge that are essential to understanding a multifaceted world become a luxury or irrelevant, and the aim of ed radically narrows: teachers are no longer educating citizens but future job holders

ed-ing citizens .. just as cancerous..

i know of no swaths of knowledge that are essential.. (yes to citizenship perhaps.. but not to a human world.. to an undisturbed ecosystem)

what we need is space/time to listen to our hearts each day.. to what is already in there.. that’s the only basic.. everything else is details.. often unnecessary/cancerous details..


on needing pediatricians, teachers, architects, marine biologists, pilots, computer programmers, plumbers,.. society would collapse

i don’t think so – depending on our defn of each.. ie: teachers yes.. only if we believe everyone is a teacher.. yet still.. i don’t think people should teach. rather model.. otherwise we end up spending our days answering and listening to questions that no one (or at least not everyone) every asked..

maybe we would need less bridges/autos/meds..e t al.. if we were all truly free to listen to our hearts.. ie: eudaimoniative surplus

and.. if we were truly free to do/be our art.. we would all be experts.. more so than today.. ie: the thing you can’t not do unleashes the energy needed to ie: build safe bridges et al


in context of our competitive society, schooling becomes a means of sorting the best from the rest

yes.. schooling on its own is coercive/cancerous.. a sorting by things people don’t choose to be curious about even.. ugh.. the idea that anyone knows what anyone else needs/wants to learn..ugh..  ie: taylor compulsory lawblack science of people/whales


the biggest failing of the techno/merit argument is not that those who ascend aren’t the most brilliant/skillful.. no doubt some are.. but that so many are denied the chance toe exercise their talents and develop their capacities..

i’d say all (those *sorted to the top and those **not) are denied the chance

*if they were most brilliant (doing the thing they can’t not do) we’d have a better world by now

**crazywise et al


i asked whether they learned about democracy in school and they said yes. ‘but it’s about govt, like diff branches, things like that.. they don’t ask us ‘oh how do you feel about the school’.. ‘people inside the school should have something to say..’

see.. this is already a contrived situation.. we’re not letting them speak their voice.. we’re asking them.. inviting them.. to talk about a situation already created for them.. we’re asking them inch their way to consenting with a given assumption

they need detox in order to speak freely.. we’ve not yet given them (or us) that.. so we have no idea

7 – new world order (local/global)


at what size are territories and groups best suited for collective decision making and at what point does direct deliberation become impossible..t

depends if we are first setting people (truly) free.. if we aren’t.. doesn’t matter.. still cancerous.. if we are.. those questions become irrelevant

we have the means today to facil/be ginorm/small ness


to have a chance of success, this cosmopolitan effort must be built form the bottom up.. it cannot begin at the global scale.. creating change from the top down

i think it can do both.. it has to do both.. ie: 2 convers as global infra.. with tech as it could be.. to connect us locally.. everyday anew

rather than choosing bottom up.. over top down.. i think we should focus on inside and outside.. (ie: curiosity and decision making)

my point is mundane: communities and individuals have more capacity to determining their destiny – and to influence international politics and economics in turn.. when they are strongly grounded, embedded in the space in which they live

if that were true.. ie: strongly grounded.. determining destiny, econ, politics, et al.. wouldn’t even be part of the convo/day.. we would think talking about and deliberating on those things was a waste of time

this means treating data as a public good, and making citizens co owners and co creators of services that rely on their personal data..t

if we had a global reset.. to self-talk as data.. perhaps citizen ness and ownership ness and all those things.. would become irrelevant

which is an incredible simple/not-ridiculous/eudaimonious way.. to get rid of cancer


only by taking root can democratic seeds spread

yeah.. if we get to the roots of healing.. to something every soul already craves.. leaping will be instantaneous/natural/insatiable

8 – a ruin or a habitation (present/future)


on climate change.. what is the relationship of democracy to time… this question may seem abstract but it actually foundational..

yes.. time matters.. so we can’t go part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake.. there’s  a nother way


the paradox is that to reach this accessible future, to figure out how to balance the needs and desires of those who live not w with those yet to come, we need to tap the wisdom of the past w/o getting trapped by it

eagle and condor ness.. ie: deeper than ie: supposed to’s.. of school/work.. and the resulting whales in sea world

[this chapter is in exerts first shared bottom of astra‘s page]

Astra Taylor (@astradisastra) tweeted at 12:39 PM – 6 May 2019 :
An excerpt from my new book up at @thenation in which I ponder fun stuff like:
What is the relationship of democracy to time? Do some ancestors need to be disenfranchised? Can we transcend capitalism so generations to come have a chance? (

Advocating for self-destructing legislation is a rather charitable, self-deprecating position for a founding father of the United States.

but we need that to happen everyday

Karl Marx expressed sublime horror at the persistent presence of political zombies: “Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.”

ie: supposed to’s.. of school/work

let’s just facil daily curiosity .. call it democracy if you like/must

ie: curiosity and decision making

From those democratic innovators Jefferson and Paine we inherited an obsession with novelty, in daily life and in activism. This was groundbreaking in the 18th century, but in the 21st it has become orthodoxy. Our relentless presentism, encouraged by the 24/7 news cycle and social media, enjoins us to immerse ourselves in an eternal now, a state of amnesiac contemporaneity. It severs us from the past and the future—*which serves the powerful just fine: the past contains many ideas they would rather see buried than revived, and reconfiguring our way of life to account for the future would entail a massive disruption of business as usual.

*it could serve all of us.. if we started listening to every voice.. everyday.. ie: via 2 convers as infra.. tech as it could be..

Capitalism thrives on speed, novelty, consumption, obsolescence, and, above all, growth. True sustainability, then, is anathema to capitalism, which rests on the following precept: there must be more value at the end of the day than there was at the beginning. Contraction is a crisis for capital—indeed, without expansion there is no capital, for there is no profit. At bottom, the twin perils of inherited wealth and mass indebtedness, as well as the threat of ecological apocalypse, flow from an economic system predicated on greed and boundless accumulation.

(303) The fact is, we’re up against ecological limits, not monetary shortages; we are constrained by a carbon budget not a federal one, and we need to remake our economy to reflect this reality. Ample wealth exists to be reclaimed for collective benefit, and bringing finance under democratic control will mean that *money will finally serve people, instead of the other way around.

rather.. money will finally become irrelevant.. it can never serve people.. it’s a cancer.. ie: money (any form of measuring/accounting)

That the affluent few are able to live idly off of unearned dividends and interest while most find themselves enduring extended shifts for a reduced pay-check makes this much clear: it is not just wealth but leisure that must be fairly apportioned if a sustainable democracy is to be achieved.

exactly.. and i’d say wealthy aren’t really living in true leisure at this time either..  we’re all ill

begs we base our days on gershenfeld something else law

Free time is not just a reprieve from the grindstone; it’s an expansion of freedom and a prerequisite of self-rule..t

let’s do this firstfree art-ists.

for (blank)’s sake

a nother way

The time to experiment with more ecologically conscious, personally fulfilling, and democracy-enhancing modes of valuing labor and leisure is upon us, at precisely the moment that time is running out..t

we can by augmenting interconnectedness getting us back/to an undisturbed ecosystem/eudaimoniative surplus

Nishnaabeg environmental ethics dictated that individuals could only take as much as they needed, that they must share everything following Nishnaabeg redistribution of wealth customs…

have/need ness.. but won’t/hasn’t ever work until everyone is free..  sync matters

To combat the apocalyptic apparitions, we need to conjure alternative worlds, leaping forward and looking back..t As Hannah Arendt observes in Between Past and Future, tradition does not have to be a fetter chaining us to dead matter; it can also be a thread that helps guide us toward something better and still unseen.

back to book (though i’m sure i’ve already got this quote somewhere..?)


on indebtedness and debt collective from occupy – indebtedness has been historically useful to the powerful as both a source of profit and also an instrument of social control..t

strike debt et al

social control

conclusion – from founding fathers to perennial midwives


what web du bois called ‘excluded wisdom’ the knowledge possessed by everyday people he believed democracy desperately requires.. t

only if those people are first.. truly free..

otherwise we’ve got people believing they are free.. but simply parroting the supposed to ness while intoxicated

begs a mech (w/a detox embed) to listen to all the voices/curiosities everyday..

the unsettling fact is that ruling ourselves is not a predictable or stable enterprise, but this is as much a cause of jubilation as despair. this seemingly fatal flaw is also the source of democracy’s strength. its fragmentary, unfinished nature poses a challenge to all of us who want to be both equal and free..t

antifragility/entropy.. huge to an undisturbed ecosystem


what is democracy et al


democracy now!

democracy os

democratic education


mumford non-specialized law

he had a far richer biological equipment ..a body not specialized for any single activity, and a brain capable of scanning a wider environ and holding all the diff parts of his experience together


from Lewis Mumford’s myth of the machine: (v 1):


no single trait.. not even tool making.. is sufficient to id man.. what is specially and uniquely human is man’s capacity to combine a wide variety of animal propensities into an emergent cultural entity: a human personality.

early man had a much more important asset that extended his whole technical horizon: he had a far richer biological equipment than any other animal, a body not specialized for any single activity, and a brain capable of scanning a wider environ and holding all the diff parts of his experience together.. t.. precisely because of his extraordinary plasticity and sensitivity, he was able to use a large portion of both his external environ and his internal, psychosomatic resources..



specialized: requiring or involving detailed and specific knowledge or training

no train.. no prep


from Erich Fromm‘s the sane society:


the principle of monotheism, in contrast, is that man is infinite, that there is no partial quality in him which can be hypostatized into the world..  god, in the monotheistic concept, is unrecognizable and indefinable; god is not a ‘thing’.. if man is created in the likeness of god, he is created as the bearer of infinite qualities.. in idolatry man bows down and submits to the projection of one partial quality in himself.. he does not experience himself as the center from which living acts of love and reason radiate.. he becomes a thing, his neighbor becomes a thing, just as his gods are things.


the it is me

fromm spontaneous law

discrimination as equity

embodiment ness



technophiles 2



adding page this day (from Howard Rheingold):

Original Tweet:

[actually added technophiles page 4 years ago from when howard shared piece then.. so will call this page technophiles 2 – medium posts written in 2016]


What Technophiles Need To Know: Part One

I wrote this in 1998 andpublished it on my website. I’ve been urged to make it more widely available. Here’s the first part. Four more parts will follow if there is sufficient interest.

I must describe my love for mind-extending technologies before I can describe how I started to think more critically about tools, minds, and civilizations.

I confess up front that I know of no theology or ideology that will answer the questions I can no longer avoid asking.

We are all partaking in, and many of us are helping to build, something that none of us understands.

A specific manner of systematically examining the world, extracting knowledge, and applying that knowledge to extend power, a system that was developed only a few centuries ago, has been so extraordinarily successful that it has totally sucked our attention..t..  

Our technologized culture shapes and fascinates us to the extent we don’t even see other ways of knowing and interacting with the world and each other.

People didn’t know how to think systematically about the material world until 17th and 18th centuries, despite millennia of attempts by philosophers to understand the nature of the energy and matter. . In the 16th and 17th centuries, in an unpleasant era of plagues, witch-burnings, Inquisitions, devastating religious wars and civil conflicts, a small number of European philosophers proposed thatif we could discover a better method of thinking about the world — a systematic means of discovering truth — we could govern ourselves in a more equitable manner,

imagine if we did that w/ the seeking of perfections (see below)

.. we could relieve the suffering of disease and hunger and improve the living conditions of many, if not all.

We take it for granted now, but the premise of this quest was a radically new view of human nature when it emerged, four hundred years ago: Humans are perfectible,are capable of discovering the means of our own perfection, and human institutions thereafter can be improved by perfected people: This was the blueprint for the modern idea of progress, in its original form.

A great deal of human misery has been relieved because those European thinkers began concocting this notion of perpetual discovery, perpetual change, perpetual improvement — and inventing tools for bringing about this transformation of the human condition.

“new method” that was extraordinarily successful. First, doubt everything. Then, gather evidence by examining the world and performing systematic experiments. Then formulate theories, preferably with mathematical formulae, that allow you to explain the evidence and predict the outcome of further experiments. In the beginning, few foresaw the limitations of the wondrous discovery. We can see now, however, how this successful transformation of human thought caused side-effects that were not visible for centuries.

At the end of the twentieth century, it is easy to see that technological progress based on systematically gathered scientific knowledge, coupled with industrial capitalism (or socialism, for that matter), requires continuous growth, damages the environment that supports life, diminishes both biological and social diversity, and everywhere seems to move us toward societies in which humans learn how to be components in larger social machines. .t

We simply don’t have a good method for thinking and making decisions about how to apply (and not apply) the powerful tools of rationality, the scientific method, reductionism, the combination of logic and efficiency embodied by technology.

That we don’t now know how to think and make decisions about technology doesn’t mean we are incapable of discovering a “new method” for thinking about technology. If ever our species needed thinkers of the caliber of Descartes and Newton, it is now..t

I don’t hope to discover that method by myself. But I would like to help encourage a more widespread public discourse about the problem, in the hope that our process of thinking together can help lead to this future mindset. And I hope that the people who will be designing and distributing tomorrow’s technologies can do so with a thorough knowledge of the systemic effects of their enterprise.

Let’s begin by not mistaking “thinking together” for “rushing for a solution.”

Perhaps the answer is not in the realm of “problem — -> solution.” Perhaps we need to think/feel outside that frame..t

ie: augmenting interconnectedness


What technophiles need to know — part two

It took me another fifteen years to even notice how quickly I had been sucked into spending most of my working day sitting in front of a computer, increasingly engaged with the things computers were making possible.

Every week or so, I’d get a call to help someone write. These were very smart people who knew their stuff, and either didn’t have time or didn’t like to write or were simply gifted procrastinators. 

had read the bibliographies of enough CSL publications to know that Doug Engelbart and JCR Licklider were responsible for the idea of using computers as mind amplifiers, long before PARC existed. 

Engelbart certainly existed, I learned, and was still pursuing his dream of mind-amplifying media. My curiosity led me to interview him, and the interview turned a key and unlocked something that has taken a long time to develop. I’m still tingling from my encounter with the ideals he inspired the day I met him, fifteen years ago. I’ve never encountered, and doubt whether I will ever find again, a person in pursuit of such a broad vision of the way the world ought to be, and in possession of such incredible tenacity in that pursuit. .t


In 1950, when there were only a few digital computers in the world, and television was a brand-new medium, Doug Engelbart conceived of a mind-amplifying device that would help the human race navigate the complexities of the future by representing information on TV screens and storing that information in a hypertext network. When I met him in 1983, Engelbart had been pursuing that idea for more than three decades.

Like a cross between the Ancient Mariner and an Old Testament prophet, he has been compelled to tell his entire story thousands of times. It took decades before anyone else in the world could perceive the future he had foreseen. His blue eyes still focus on a distant horizon when he explains.

Engelbart began to think about ways he could use his life to help the human race survive the explosive growth of technology he was helping create.

Engelbart read Vannevar Bush’s visionary article in the May, 1945, Atlantic, As We May Think. When he started thinking about how people could solve complex intellectual problems together, Engelbart began envisioning a version of Bush’s memex that was more of a communication device than just an information-finding tool..t

memex.. hosting life bits ness

ie: 2 convers.. as infra.. as it could be..

In 1962, Engelbart published his epochal paper, Augmenting Human Intellect, about a tool-using tool that would involve more than just hardware and software: new ways of thinking, working, communicating, and *new languages to represent these new mind-tools would be required,as well as **new training methods and organizational systems .. t.. to manage their use as part of scientific, educational, industrial enterprises. 

augmenting human intellect

*idio-jargon/self-talk as data

**no train

a whole new way of using our minds, our language, our institutions. ..he understood that these tools would necessarily be part of a profound systemic change. Read Engelbart’s conclusion, then remind yourself he wrote this in 1962.

Being around him affected me. It became clear to me that the world didn’t know that personal computers were invented by stubborn visionaries like Engelbart, and not by the computer industry or computer science orthodoxy. After talking to Engelbart, Alan Kay, JCR Licklider, Bob Taylor, and others who had been involved in “interactive computing” since the 1960s, I understood that this tool was the work of people who deliberately sought to extend the powers of intellect and communication. ..I wrote Tools For Thought to tell that story.


What technophiles need to know – part three

As soon as I discovered that my mind-amplifier could plug into other minds via a kind of groupmind amplifier, I spent the next fifteen years too enthralled to pay attention to other effects the technology was having on me and the rest of the world.

I wrote about those experiences in the last chapter of Tools for Thought. In 1985, I joined the WELL, and I’ve probably spent an average of three hours a day online ever since.

My social isolation, fascination and dissatisfaction with BBSs, inability to pay premium rates, set me up for instant seduction when the Whole Earth Lectronic Link opened in 1985, offering a kind of freewheeling online salon of techies, writers, activists, deadheads, and other early adopters of technology culture — at $2/hr. Where did the last thirteen years go? I had no idea at the time that reading, typing, thinking about, laughing at, crying over, fretting over WELL postings would involve a significant amount, if not a majority, of my waking hours for more than a decade to come. I ended up travelling around the world to research my book, The Virtual Community, and travelling around it a half dozen more times after it was published in 1993. 

People who communicate via computer networks definitely should be instructed about the danger of mistaking messages on computer screens for fully authentic human relationships.

for some people, online communication is a lifeline, a way of improving their quality of life, and one should think hard and long before appointing oneself the arbiter of whether it is healthy 

when critiquing virtual communities is that alienation is real and important, but it did not begin with computers, nor should our critique end there.


What technophiles need to know – Part Four

In the process of writing my book, Virtual Reality, and in my reading of the book’s reviews, I began to wonder whether the ultimate direction of personal computer development would be really be the empowering *mind amplification I had hoped for, or whether it might instead devolve into hypnotic disinfotainment

or perhaps.. *interconnected amplification/augmentation

Stewart Brand, the founder of the magazine, and the Whole Earth Catalog the counterculture best-seller that the magazine descended from, was a biologist who shared my fascination with mind amplifiers. Indeed, when Doug Engelbart produced his famous 1968 demonstration of the future of computer technology, his audio-visual coordinator was Stewart Brand. And Brand’s early writings about Xerox PARC helped steer me there, although I didn’t meet him for years to come. Brand’s mentors, Ken Kesey and Gregory Bateson, were iconoclasts, pranksters, and whole-systems thinkers. 


I’ve been looking for examples of humans recognizing a *problem caused by *technological intervention in their lives, finding ***a solution, and making it work in ****action.

*problem deep enough that 7bn would resonate w it today and ongoingly

**supposed to’s (aka: bureaucracy)

***cure ios city.. tech as it could be

****a nother way

Such people can be found, and they have much to say to us about what we need to know to find a solution that is democratic, humane, and workable. Right now, I think the first struggle is to get more than a tiny minority of people to recognize it is important to try to think together, as a civilization, about where technology came from, where it’s going to, and how to have a say in what happens next.


war on normal people

war on normal people.png

by Andrew Yang


normal..? rather.. let’s go with (not) normal.. ness



acknowledgements (245) include: rutger bregmanyuval harari, alec ross, mark zuckerberg, sam altman, tim o’reilly, nick hanauer, scott santens .. shaped my thinking on many points, generally w/o knowing it..



normal people. 70% of americans consider themselves part of the middle class. chances are, you do , too. right now some of the *smartest people in the country are trying to figure out how to replace you w an overseas worker, a cheaper version of you, or, increasingly , a widget, software program, or robot.. there’s no malice in it. the market reward business leaders for making things more efficient. efficiency doesn’t love normal people it loves getting things done in the most cost effective way possible

*what exactly makes them the smartest..?

normal people.. smartest people.. dangerous labels..


lower end of the skill ladder

dangerous labels


10 yrs into the nation’s recovery from the financial crisis and 95 mn working age american not in the workforce – i’ve taken to calling this phenom the great displacement


i’m also both an ardent capitalist and completely certain that our system needs to change in order to continue our way of life

who’s way..?


the logic of the meritocracy is leading us to ruin because we are collectively primed to ignore the voices of the millions getting pushed into economic distress by the grinding wheels fo automation and innovation. we figure they’re complaining or suffering because they’re losers.

we need to break free of this logic of the marketplace before it’s too late..

we must find new ways to organize ourselves independent of the values that the marketplace assigns to each and everyone of us..

part 1 – what’s happening to jobs

1 – my journey


i would often fy back to manhattan or sv after a trip and think ‘i can’t believe i’m still in the same country’ i’d sit down for diner w my friends and feel like a character in a play about people who ate well while the world burned, struggling to understand & share what i’d seen

people who were considered the mostsuccessful in the field (would) confide in me that they didn’t believe they were meaningfully addressing the problems they set out to solve, that they would need 10 or 100 or 1000 times theresources to have a chance to do so

people (sv et al) were clapping us on the back, congratulating us on our accomplishments, and we were thinking to ourselves, what are you congratulating us for? the problems are just getting worse..

the sense of unease plagued me and i became consumed by two fundamental and uncomfortable questions: ‘what the heck is happening to the us? and ‘why am i becoming such a tool?..


i’ve switched gears. *my goal now is to give everyone a sense of what’s coming and then prepare us to fight for the version of the future that we want.. it’s up to us.. the market won’t help us. indeed, it s about to turn on us.. the solutions aren’t beyond us yet, but it’s getting late in the day dn time is running short.. i need you to see what i see

how about rather.. provide a mech/model that 7bn people to leap to a nother way to live.. sans money/measure.. no prep/training needed..

2 – how we got here


charts/stats on tech increasingly taking over, pay/jobs increasingly dropping.. ineq increasing and studies that everyone is less happy in unequal societies

3 – who is normal


when i say normal i mean the average.. the person in the middle.. so having a phd is not normal, but neither is being a jr high dropout


most of us live around people like ourselves. what feels normal to each of us is based on our context.. knowing what’s truly normal or average in a big country like america requires some work..


the avg american achieves something between one credit of college and and associate’s degree; 60.5% of americans 25 yrs and older have attended some college and 43.51% have at least an associate’s degree.. it would be entirely accurate to say that the avg american is not a college grad..

cool stats.. but not (college grads) what we need

then charts w level of ed compared to median income…


so what’s normal? the normal american did not graduate from college and doesn’t have an associate’s degree.. has anew worth of approx 36k.. and lives paycheck to paycheck.. .. these are mean stats w 50% of americans below these levels..

when jobs start to disappear in large numbers due to tech advance, the normal american won’t have much to fall back on

or maybe.. we will all wake up.. what we really need (not more ed/work) is the energy of 7bn alive people

4 – what we do for a living


today this is the reality we face (after describing an automated secretary scheduling meetings).. many americans are in danger of losing their jobs right now due to automation..

who wants a job scheduling meetings..who wants meetings? bs jobs .. job/less ness.. et al


clerical and admin staff.. this is the most common occupational group


he forecasts an ‘automation tsunami’.. that will leave ‘tens of millions of workers stranded’..

a friend at another bank ..told me that many of the people in the san fran homeless shelter he volunteers at .. used to work in clerical roles that are no longer necessary

we have to go deeper.. dang..


i grew up going to my local mall in yorktown heights, ny. i t represented the height of many things to me at the time – commerce, culture, freedom, status.. buying a thing or two would give me joy. i would run into classmates at the mall, for good or ill. that time is gone for good in much of the country

good thing.. dang..


when a mall closes.. there are many bad things that happen to the local community.. many people lose their jobs..  it gets worse.. the local mall is one of the pillars of the regional budget.. the sales tax goes straight to the county and the state.. .. this means shrunken municipal budget, cuts to school budgets.. job reduction in local gov..

we have to go deeper.. dang..

if you’ve ever been to a dead/dying mall, yo know that it’s both depressing and eerie.. a sign that community can’t support a commercial center and that it may be time to leave. it’ snot just you.. dying malls become haven for crime..  ie: cars randomly keyed in parking lots..



unused infra decays quickly and gives an environ a bleak, dystopian atmosphere.. i’m glad to say that detroit has gotten a lot better since 2011

really..?  not according to drew.. et al.. ie: $500 dollar house


most retail workers at least had the gratification of leaving home, convo w colleagues and customers, getting a store discount, and generally being a member of society


the reason that even well meaning commentators suggest increasingly unlikely and tenuous ways for people to make a living is that they are trapped in the conventional thinking that people must trade their time, energy, and labor *for money as the only way to **survive.. you stretch for answers because in reality, ***there are none.. the subsistence and scarcity model is grinding more and more people up.. ****preserving it is the thing we must give up first.. 

*earn a living ness

**survive..? let’s focus on alive ness..

***let’s try this – a nother way..

****whew.. but a long way to go from there.. rather.. let’s do this first..


on food service becoming automated.. even to 3d ing pizzas..

when what we need is more time to grow our own food.. not jobs in food service..


clerical, retail, food service.. most common jobs.. each in grave dangers.. yet .. the even ones to worry about most.. single most defining job in automation story.. is the number 4 job category: truck driving

5 – factory workers and truck drivers


many, however will argue for the preservation fo truck driving because they recognized just how problematic it would be for such a large number of uneducated male workers to be displaced quickly..


all of us.. (not just male uned workers .. wtf labeling them that way).. need more local.. sans money/measure spaces of permission w nothing to prove..

6 – white collar jobs will disappear, too


some of the jobs requiring the most ed are actually among the most likely to become obsolete.. ie: computers to read patient films..


there is a lot of repetitive functioning in what we consider high end professional jobs – what i call intellectual manual labor.. a dr, lawyer, accountant, dentist, or pharmacist will go thru years of training.. then do the same thing over and over against in slightly diff variations..  much of the training is to socialize us into people who can sit still for long periods and behave and operate consistently and reliably..


much of this info is mundane.. but the point is that in this flood of new data, there will be very useful pieces of actionable info

let’s act on this: self-talk as data.. via 2 convos.. as infra.. toward page intention/action law

yuval harari postulates a world where ai could tell you who to marry..  increasing and improved uses of big data..

again.. matters little if the wrong data..  in particular.. data from people who are not themselves.. ie: whales in sea world



i asked a high end dr friend who attended mit ad harvard how much of medical practice he thought could be performed via automation. he said, ‘at least 80% of it is ‘cookbook’.. you just do what you know you’re supposed to od. there’s not much imagination o r creativity to most of medicine’

why we need to get away from doping/fixing.. and back to preventative..

7 – our humanity and work


on foxconn bringing in robots to make apple products after 14 foxconn workers committed suicide..

the automation wave is coming in part because, if your sole goal is to get work done, people are much trickier to deal w than machines.. acknowledging this is not a bad thing – it is a necessary step toward finding solutions. it may push us to think more deeply about what makes humanity valuable..


it’s worth considering whether humans are not actually best suited for many forms of work.. (and) reverse.. is work good for us

voltaire wrote ‘work keeps at bay three great evils: boredom, vice, and need’.. the total absence of work is demonstrably a bad thing for most people. long term unemployment is presently one of the most destructive things that can happen to a person – happiness levels tank and never recover.. one study says worse than death of spouse..

job/less ness.. go deeper.. it’s actually that lacking/absence of 2 basic needs

on other hand, most people don’t actually like their jobs.. gallup.. only 13% worldwide report being engaged in jobs..


the relationship between humanity and work involves money.. but in something of a negative correlation

money/measure is neg for us.. a disturbance to our ecosystem

the jobs most human would naturally be attractive to pay nothing or close to nothing.. ie: parent; artist.. many of thees roles have high positive social impacts that are ignored by the market

caring labor.. interpretive labor

the most lucrative jobs tend to be the most inorganic.. corp lawyers, techs, financiers, trader, management..


whether work is good for humans depends a bit on your pov. we dont’ like it and we’re almost certainly getting too much of it. but we dont’ know what to do w ourselves w/o it.. oscar wilde: ‘work is the refuge of people who have nothing better to do’.. unfortunately that may describe the vast majority of us..

well.. as whales in sea world

we’ve been trained to follow orders.. so yeah.. we need detox from that training.. but in a natural state.. we would 1\ have plenty to do/be..actually plenty we couldn’t not do..  and we would 2\ realize there’s never nothing going on


the challenge we must overcome is that humans need work more than work needs us

and.. we don’t need work..  ie: we’ve programmed the whale at sea world to think he needs money .. and so he needs to work..

8 – the usual objections


‘it is in fact diff this time’ – (58% of cross sector experts polled by bloomberg in 2017 agreed w this statement)

but not because of automation and job loss and whatever else.. it’s because we now have the means/tech to ground the chaos of 7b truly free people.. and that energy (the energy of 7bn alive people).. is something we’ve never tapped into.. and we won’t.. unless we let go

history repeats itself until it doesn’t no one has an incentive to sound the alarm. to do so could make you seem uneducated and ignorant of history, and perhaps even negative and shrill

it also would make you right in this case

wilde unpractical law

there has never been a computer smarter than humans until now

being smart is a distraction.. esp computer smart

make a placard of this: gupta roadblock law.. let it sink in.. it’s huge (vinay seems to have lost it himself).. it can save a lot of time/energy

self driving cars.. *data is about to supplant human judgment..  and on an on

all that.. including on and on ness.. is a distraction.. the only data that matters now.. if we want that true different ness..  is *self-talk as data.. let’s focus on that.. 2 convos.. as infra (the means to ground the chaos of 7bn free people.. by listening to each one.. everyday.. as it could be)


teens in highschool.. 1910 19%.. 1940 73%..

not a plus.. a distraction.. gupta roadblock law..

getting rid of all the distractions/irrelevant s.. ie: schoolworkmoneymeasure.. imagine if you were ‘allowed‘ to continue being a free/curious spirit at age 5.. 2.. whatever.. and imagine if you were raised by parents that had the same.. freedom..  we’d live eudaimoniative surplus (aka:undisturbed ecosystem)..


the unemployment rate is like checking how a party is going based on everyone who’s at the party. it doesn’ take into account the people who were never invited to the party or couldnt’ get in.. it also doesn’t take into account the people who are in the wrong room at the party and having a bad time..

or that the party itself (ie: work for pay) is a distraction..  gupta roadblock law..

part 2 – what’s happening to us

9 – life in the bubble


our national unis are effectively a talent drain on 75% of the country


instead of seeing college as a period of intellectual exploration , many young people now see it as a mass sort or cull that determines one’s future prospects and lot in life.. ie: fb and google hiring from same schools.. w starting salaries in 6 figures..

one reason students feel pressured to seek high paying jobs is the record level of school debt

strike debt


students from independent young adults to ‘brittle’ and ‘existentially impotent’


william deresiewicz’s excellent sheep: ‘driven to achieve w/o knowing why’.. and then they become paralyzed when they’re not sure how to proceed..

on hold at library

college.. a distraction.. gupta roadblock law..


mission statement (venture for america): to restore the culture of achievement to include value creation, risk and reward and the common good

cain achieve law

thinking the common good has no rewards.. needing incentive a sign you’re doing it wrong

upon joining venture for america, we ask our fellows to adopt the following credo: my career is a choice that indicate my values

career as a distraction.. gupta roadblock law.… humanity begs the bravery to change your mind.. everyday.. and.. today.. we can facilitate that..  our means to antifragility

value creation is how i measure achievement

measuring and achievement .. both (cancerous) distractions.. gupta roadblock law...


i will creat opp for myself and others

let’s just focus on that: equity.. everyday.. and ..’others’ has to be all of us.

for every person in venture for america, there are about 10 000 other young people who want the same things..

let’s go deeper.. and find the things that 7bn people want.. today.. ie: maté basic needs.. getting to the roots of healing


people in the bubble think that the world is more orderly than it is. they overplan.. they mistake smarts for judgment..for character.. they overvalue credentials. head not heart… they need status and reassurance..

yuval harari suggests: ‘ the way we treat stupid people in the future will be the way we treat animals today’.. if we’re going to fix things to keep his vision from coming true, now is the time..

brooks contempt law.. thurman interconnectedness law

10 – mindsets of scarcity and abundance

affluence w/o abundance

11 – geography is destiny


taibbi‘s divide

12 – men, women, and children


on decrease in marriage by unemployed men and increase in single parent (mostly moms).. and how difficult it all is.. at a time when raising and education children and forming our human capital is of the utmost importance, we’re heading in the other direction

we’ve been going in the other direction for years.. ed is part culprit/distraction.. let go

13 – the permanent shadow class: what displacement looks like


on mortality/suicides rates.. case and deaton point the finger at jobs.. people lost sense of status and belonging.. classic precondition for suicide

suicide.. farmer suicides


many of deaths are from opiate overdose.. approx 59 000 died of drug overdoses in 2016.. for first time drug overdoes have surpassed car accidents  as leading cause of accidental death in us..

addiction.. hari addiction law.. et al


‘we are seeing an unbelievably sad an extensive heroin epidemic and there is no end in sight’ – daniel ciccarone.. ‘heroin has a life force of its own’

hari rati park law

our drug co’s and med system have produced hundreds of thousands of opioid addicts who are now heroin users buying from dealers..

our system has produced that.. ie: hari present in society law.. begs we reset ourselves.. focus of on maté basic needs.. via 2 convos.. as infra


increase on those on disability.. most for mental disorder..


to apply for disability, applicants must gather evidence from med professionals. they compile notes from drs, send in the info, and wait to hear back. no lawyer representing the govt cross examines them. no govt dr examines them. about 40% of claims are ultimately approved,.. the lifetime value of a disability award is about 300k .. 80% of claimants are rep’d by counsel.. big business.. one law firm generated 70 mn in revenue in one year alone..

after someone is on disability, there’s a massive disincentive to work, because if you work and show that you’re able bodied, you lose benefits..  as a result, virtually no one recovers from disability..

one judge said ‘if the american public knew what was going on in our system, half would be outraged and the other half would apply for benefits’

true about a lot of things.. everything.. related to money/measure


disability illustrates the challenges of mandating the govt to admin such a large scale program. the truly diable and needy may find themselves shut out by red tape, while the process rewards those who lawyer up and the lawyers themselves..   pervasive message ‘game the system and get money’ and ‘think of yourself as incompetent and incapable of work’.. onceyou’re on.. you never leave

again.. true about a lot of things.. everything.. related to money/measure

14 – video games and the (male) meaning of life


(after – the amt of time i spent on video games dropped dramatically after i graduated from college): i started reading books on investing and financial statement analysis, which seemed to me to be the real world analogue to becoming good at video games


they (video games) speak to a primal set of basic impulse – to world creating, skill building achievement, violence, leadership, teamwork, speed, efficiency, status, decision making, and accomplishment.. they fall into a whole suite of things that appeal to young men in particular – to me the list would go something like.. gaming, the stock market, fantasy sports, gambling, basketball, sci fiction/geek moves, and cryptocurrencies, ..

most of which involve a blend of numbers and optimization. it’s a need for mastery, progress, competition and risk.


achievement, efficiency, status, decision making, .. of math and men.. competition..


the image of legions of men in their parents’ basements playing video games for hours on end may seem pathetic or sad. but their satisfaction level is high ‘happiness has gone up for this group’ says hurst.. despite the high rate fo unemployment..

video games are fun and communal

and supplying a connection .. missing piece #2.. which is huge

nowadays.. they’re also so well designed that many almost simulate jobs if a job’s progress were measure in minutes and hours instead of weeks and months.. in many games, you perform a variety of mundane, repetitive tasks in order to build points or currencies or accrue items.. you then use these items to make yourself more capable..  you experience a continuous feeling of progress and accomplishment

the game of monopoly.. et al

productivity ness from all the supposed to‘s we are/were immersed in (aka: manufacturing consent.. voluntary compliance .. et al

15 – the shape we’re in/disintegration


i love capitalism – we all have capitalism to thank for most of what we enjoy. it has elevated the standard of living of billions of people and defined our society for the better

? – we have no idea

that said, capitalism, w the assistance of tech, is about to turn on normal people.. capital and efficiency will prefer robots…

capitalism doesn’ work that well if people don’t have any money to buy things or if communities are degenerating into scarcity anger, and despair

from said capitalism.. no..? – esp gabor on capitalism


addressing the conditions that breed hatred is very hard.. attacking other people will be a lot easier than attacking the system..

not if we go deep enough..  ie: interconnectednessmissing piece #1, missing piece #2


we have to start thinking more about what makes life worthwhile

indeed.. and many of us need detox in order to do that.. or we’ll just perpetuate this broken feedback loop we call civilization/democracy/productivity/progress/whatever

part 3 – solutions and human capitalism

16 – the freedom dividend


peter frase points out that work encompasses three things: 1\ the mean by which the economy produces goods/and services, 2\ the means by which people earn income, and 3\ an activity that lends meaning or purpose to many people’s lives

ugh.. let’s try 1\ a bureaucratic distraction from what we truly need/want  2\ the cancerous idea of earning a living  and 3\ bs jobs

easiest one first.. ubi to provide for basic needs.. which i would call the ‘freedom dividend’

not free if still tied to money/measure.. ubi as temp placebo could work

17 – ubi in the real world

ie’s: nc, iowa, indiana, co, wa, .. mincome.. evelyn, .. alaska.. kenya (givedirectly), .. finalnd.. canada.. netherlands.. scotland.. iran..  sam  ..  rutger ..

all part\ial.. so..


scarcity research indicates that the best way to improve decision making is to free up people’s bandwidth. people won’t  ever make perfect choices. but knowing that their *basic needs are accounted for will lead to better choices for millions of people each day

what if humanity/life is more about curiosity.. than choices/ decision making..

we need to go for *deeper/basic needs.. since we now have the means to facilitate the chaos of that ultimate freedom/equity.. (ie: the energy of 7bn alive people)

18 – time as the new money

time.. money..


to be able to fill leisure intelligently is the last product of civilization – bertrand russell

depends on who’s defining intelligently.. ie: i’m thinking the leisure we need.. in order to be.. has little to do with intelligence (and combining that phrase: fill leisure intelligently.. with this phrase: product of civilization.. is very suspect.. jaded at the very least) .. ie: there’s never nothing going on .. and if we doubt that.. if we don’t trust that.. we’ll be (and have been) missing it/us..

what we need.. in order to get to the energy of 7bn alive people.. is spaces of permission where people have nothing to prove.. we don’t need intelligence.. we need people’s art/gift/eudaimonia.. we need what’s already in them.. let’s facil that.. by listening to every voice.. every day.. as it could be..

work has been prove to be a vital part of a healthy life and society..

since when..? where .. ?

long-term unemployment is one of the most destructive things that can happen to a person..

wtf…? graeber job less law.. dang man.. that’s your bubble talking..about whales at sea world..  hari present in society law.. krishnamurti free will law.. krishnamurti measure law

should the govt guarantee work or creat jobs? may idealistic people i know advocate for universal service opps.. the problem s th tit’s very expensive to organize, train, and employ people. teach for america spends approx 51 000 per corps member o non compensation costs over two years .. peace corps.. 56 000 per volunteer.. venture for america.. 30 000 per entrepreneur.. us military.. 170 000 per soldier..


setting up a structure for people is wildly expensive..

not to mention the loss of energy because then the 7bn people are not alive people (it has to be all of us for us to be truly alive)..

many of the populations people are most eager to see employed and kept from idleness are among the least competent and able to be employed by the private sector. the natural tendency is to spend a lot of money on people doing things that *aren’t actually that valuable. since we’re talking about millions of people on the lower end of he education and skill range, this is likely where most efforts would lead if one tried to replace any significant proportion of private employment w govt service jobs

dang man.. so disappointing/frustrating.. these words you say..

i don’t even know how to respond.. i just keep hearing.. bubble.. whales in sea world.. not us..  ie: who’s deciding *this..?


the goal is for ted to acquire a set of interests and relationships that *replace the **structure that work used to provide

*restore the curiosities that the structure/violence of work took away

ie: let’s do this first.. fee art\ists.. in the city.. as the day..

2 convos.. as infra**structure

ted scenario.. message on phone.. neighbor annie needs help.. ted helps.. then ted gets 100 social credits..

rewards/incentives.. and suggested projects.. are compromising to each artist…  we can do better.. ie: /self-talk as data.. everyday.. as the day..


my ie of social credits..  is based on a system currently in use in about 100 communities around the us.. called time banking..

marsh exchange law.. even exchanging time.. is killer.. why do we have to measure .. why do we have to do tit for tat ness.. why can’t we just trust ie: have/need ness.. why can’t we just trust us to do/be good/enough..?

some of the reasons: 1\ we believe the myth of the tragedy of the commons 2\ we don’t believe that there is never nothing going on  3\ we don’t see us as one family  4\ we don’t grok interconnectedness  5\ we believe our nature is like a whale at sea world.. et al

not dissing the personal stories of time trade.. it’s much better than what we do now.. but.. because we have the means to truly get at eudaimoniative surplus..  why would we bring in the ‘tragedy of the 10 day care centers‘)..?

let’s try this scenario: a nother way book


‘i esp like showing by daughter, that not every exchange is about money – randy’

imagine if we show ourselves.. (all of us).. that relationship (to selves and others – aka: maté basic needs) is not about exchange.

despite the success of time banks in communities.. they have not caught hold that widely .. *in part because they require a certain level of admin and resources to operate.. now imagine a supercharged version fo time banking backed by the us govt.. where there’s real monetary value underlying it..  this new currency – social credits.. would reward people for doing things that serve the community.. the govt could put up significant levels of dscs as prizes and incentives for major initiatives..

dang.. 10 day care centers.. wrapped up in supercharged bureaucracy..

and *in part because they are not our natural state.. measuring/rewarding our relationships is not deep enough to awaken us..

let go


the overall goal would be to improve social cohesion and maintain high levels of engagement for people in a post work econ..

then you’d be doing it wrong.. let’s try: a people experiment

19 – human capitalism


our econ system must shift to focus on bettering the lot of the average person

how about all people.. ie: equity: everyone getting a go everyday


we can harness the country’s ingenuity and energy to improve millions of lives if we just create a way to monetize and measure these goals.

wtf..? that’s how we got here..

we need to let go of money/measure

i’ve concluded that there is *no other way to make these changes and manage thru the loss of jobs than to have the fed govt reformat and reorg the econ.. particularly suing tech to serve human needs

both: wtf and k.. if so.. then try tech as it could be..  (that’s *a nother way your entrepreneurial mind isn’t even thinking of.. we have to quit tweaking)


it (crisis) requires drastic intervention.human capitalism will reshape the way that we measure value and progress, and help us redefine why we do what we do

what if what we need more.. is to do something different.. ie: eudaimoniative surplus.. aka: get back to an undisturbed ecosystem

20 – the strong state and the new citizenship


we should give presidents a raise from their current 400 000 to 4 mn tax free per year plus 10 mn social credits.. w one condition.. they would not be able to accept speaking fees or any board positions for any personal gains after leaving offices.. this would keep them free and clear of any need to make powerful people happy.. we should do the same for members of the cabinet and the heads of all regularity agencies..

oh my..

the whole system is a distraction.. gupta roadblock law..

moten abolition law

most public servants i know are motivated by the right things. you go in hoping to make a diff. but you quickly get jaded by the system..

indeed.. moten abolition law.. we can do better than paying people to play nice..


let go


it would remove the ‘upside down’ incentives

we need to remove all incentives..  see them as a red flag.. that we’re doing it wrong


tristan harris .. has written compellingly about how apps are designed to function like slot machines, vying for our attention and giving us variable unpredictable reward to keep us engaged..

so.. let’s turn that around.. app/tech/mech.. designed solely to listen to 7bn people.. everyday.. and facilitate that.. as it could be..



citizenship must grow to mean something again..  and we have to  make clear that we value people intrinsically, independent of any qualities or qualifications

nationality: human

human\e constitution

in the city.. as the day..

21 – health care in a world w/o jobs

ha.. imagine how healthy we’d all be.. just not having jobs..

22 – *building people

rather.. let’s try *listening to and facilitating 7bn people’s curiosities.. everyday.. ie: cure ios city

reimagining college

moten abolition law

if equity is everyone getting a go every day.. redefining public education becomes revolution of everyday life.. aka: global equity

ie: let’s do this first.. fee art\ists (aka: all of us.. has to be all of us).. in the city.. as the day..

2 convos.. as infra**structure

conclusion: masters or servants


a lot to take on.. we feel paralyzed because we fear that our institutions and leaders are no longer able to operate the solution required many to act against their own immediate interests..

rather.. we feel paralyzed because we (and esp the people w mics) can’t let go of irrelevants.. we’re drowning in irrelevants.


i’ve been in the room w the people who are meant to steer our society


we are capable of so much better

indeed.. let go..

let’s focus on the energy of 7bn alive people


via Dana Meadows: ‘in undisturbed ecosystems ..the average individual, species, or population, left to its own devices, behaves in ways that serve and stabilize the whole
i believe.. today we have the means to facilitate (get us back to) that undisturbed ecosystem
via Vinay Gupta: ‘it’s not hard to access whether what you are doing matters.. it is hard to choose to make that assessment and to disengage from what is irrelevant
this is huge to saving time/energy/resources .. among many things..some i see as irrelevant and so disturbances: money; work for money; school; public consensus; measuring transactions; validating people; ..
ie: imagine (in regard to your ted scenario p 190) if ted .. rather than hearing about someone else’s need first.. voices a daily curiosity.. and in a similar manner.. we facil a local connection.. so that those w same/similar curiosity can explore it together that day..
and then the next day it starts all over.. anew
imagine this happening in sync..everyday .. for 7bn people
believing what we need most is the energy from 7bn alive people.. begs a mech (as it could be) to facil that chaos.. its key function would be to listen to (non judgmentally) and then facil daily curiosities/self-talk


how soon is now

how soon is now.png

(2017) by Daniel Pinchbeck

intro’d to it here:

douglas and daniel

@Medium @rushkoff any chance we can have another meeting with them with you, myself, and futurist Daniel Schmachtenberger proposing an alternative path toward a regenerative society as I discuss in ?

Original Tweet:


reading how soon is now just after finishing hardt and negri‘s assembly


40 min talk on the book in 2017


8 min – a collective .. deciding.. maybe a period of time we have to re tool..

ie: short bp

10 min – a crisis of this magnitude opens up a space for people to think differently.. t

a nother way

that’s what his book is.. it’s a 9-10 yr effort.. one thing that really drove it was naomi’s shock doctrine

shock doctrine

23 min – we can construct a different game.. we just haven’t figured out how to get control of the system we’ve unleashed.. t

gershenfeld sel.. via 2 convos.. as infra

25 min – it could be more peaceful and rapid than we’ve imagined..t

indeed.. if we focus deep enough.. on a problem that resonates w 7bn people.. today..

has to be all of us

33 min – humor, ridicule, is good at mocking dominant power structures.. but harder to figure out how that leads to alternatives.. someone trying to do that.. russell brand.. charming/funny ways to get ideas out



preface – by sting


for me, the take home idea is that the biospheric emergency facing us is somehow wired into our dna, forcing us to make an evolutionary leap as a species..

just as i’m hearing about 100th monkey.. and a great concert (ab).. and how the present experience of love.. breaks down barriers/untruths.. and moves us beyond words/chains/et-al

this already in us ness.. is why we can leap (beyond exponential change) to  a nother way

i find this a compelling way of looking at our perilous situation , one that takes us beyond the stale rhetoric of political parties..  it may be that many, if not most of our problems are due to a poor level of understanding about the realities we face..


one thing i appreciate about this book is daniel’s no blame stance..  which could be more strategically effective for bringing about change than calling out the usual scapegoats..  the more important point is that *we and they are all part of the same system.. a system that itself needs a redesign..

*us & them ness.. as one

undisturbed ecosystem

as daniel points out.. the potential during this time is enormous.. .. but we can only realize it come together as one..

none of us if one of us

intro – by russell brand



i first encountered daniel thru his 2010 documentary 2012: time for change

time for change doc []

like daniel i have come to understand that we first of all need something like a revolution of consciousness and a profound transformation of our social systems if we want to avert short term regression into the primitive authoritarianism with which we are not threatened, as well as long term ecological meltdown..


i agree w him that this revolution is not imply a matter of changing our political or economic system; the solution has to be primarily spiritual and secondarily political

rather.. it just has to be deep enough to reach/resonate w 7bn people today..


(daniel’s doc intro’d me to bucky): buckminster fuller succinctly outline what ought be our collective objectives: ‘to make the world work for 100% of humanity in the shortest possible time thru spontaneous cooperation w/o ecological offense or the disadvantage of anyone’.. isn’t that simply sensible.. considering the ever increasing power of our techs, and the new communications networks that link humanity together instantly..?

indeed..  has to be 100% of humanity.. or it won’t work

as it could be..

2 convos.. as infra

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

one thing daniel seeks to do in his book is to offer some elements of a possible new mythic structure, along w a blueprints for th future. his ideas have been drawn from tribal shamanism and quantum physics, as well as evolutionary biology and the cutting edge of developments in the fields like energy, sustainability and industrial design.. he envisions a system based on cooperation rather than competition that will allow our children and their children to live in relative peace and harmony, w/o further annihilating the earth’s fragile ecosystems, as we are now doing ast a rapid clip..

emmet fox: ‘regardless of another person’s behavior, the christ w/in them is calling out to you’


quite obviously, the old ways of looking at things are no longer helping us. we need new ideas and insights..

daniel proposes we approach the multilevel crisis of civilization now confronting us as a great opp for awakening and initiation.. we can focus on the great task that fuller set for us: to make the world comprehensively successful for all..

we already live w/in successive cycles of revolution that are occurring faster and faster. the agri rev took 1000s of yrs; the industrial rev took 100s; the tech rev took tens.. the spiritual rev is coming – as soon as now – and we have only an instant to act

p 1 – planetary initiation

1 – burning down the house


2005 at burning man.. i tried to incite a global revolution.. upon hearing about katrina .. (and 15 000 poor people, mostly african american, in the louisana superdome, in unsanitary conditions w/o water or power).. which no one at burning man heard/cared about.. i believed that the fractally rhizomatic now was the only moment that mattered.. the only moment that ever was..

burning man

i felt fury at our failure, as a species, to overcome the ‘system’

in 2000.. my first visit to burning man.. was skeptical.. but .. w/in a few days.. it permanently expanded my sense of what humanity could become..

i discovered a huge, supportive, loving community focused on self expression, direct experience and personal freedom.. as crucial for me as paris commune of 1870 was for karl marx and freidrich engels..



the essential political insight i took from burning man was our capacity to reorg society around principles quite diff from the ones we have now..  we can create a post postmodern civilization where the pursuit of art, ecstasy, play and spiritual communion are central to its purpose..

a nother way via 2 convos.. as infra

i believed a rapid global awakening was possible..

indeed.. if we focus on that.. a global awakening.. ie: the energy from 7bn alive people.. our detox/bridge/means – self-talk as data

naively i assume that everyone at burning man understood that the festival was simply a prelude/rehearsal.. eventually we would engineer a metamorphosis of our civilization, re creating it thru the crucible of the imagination..

but suddenly .. that night in 2005, i saw burning man’s celebratory spectacle, for the first time, as an artificial paradise distracting us from the sombre reality we needed to confront..  those w the awareness and ability to change the world were caught in a hall of mirrors – a subtle trap..  burning man was a temp autonomous zone, a beautiful mirage..  it showed what was possible, but it diverted our energy from the hard work of changing the system..  what it promoted was cultural rebellion not social transformation..  burning man had turned into a culture of its own, which made people obedient and complacent

distraction.. gupta roadblock law..


i proposed we stop the festival’s annual crescendo – the burning.. instead, invite the community to stay  for few extra weeks while we drafted a planetary constitution together.. we would use the disaster to tap the community’s genius in a focused and org’d way.. to design and build the prototype fo ra new social infra thru a cooperative, consensus process..

try this man: 2 convos.. as infra

as it could be..

rather than making incremental and fitful progress, humanity as a whole would make a sudden forward leap

leap.. yes.. but sans money/measure/decision-making/public-consensus/et-al

property would be collectivized.. we would be living the revolution as we created it – we would be co creating the new now..


the fastest way for a change to occur would be for the wealthy elite – or at least a subset of them – to take responsiblity for humanity’s current predicament, overcome the hypnotism of privilege and use their capital to engineer a rapid turnaround.. i know that sounds unlikely…

only because no one has figured out how that would play out (a true rapid turnaround).. i think rich people are throwing money around everywhere.. just .. nothing to date.. is working/sustaining.. getting us back to an undisturbed ecosystem

[exactly what i’d love to talk to you about daniel – that’s been my focus for 10 yrs now.. ie: what’s the problem that would be deep enough; what’s the mech that would be simple enough; and what’s the ecosystem that would be open enough.. for 7bn people to resonate with .. today.. right now]


another option would be some form of revolution or global overturning of the current system, substituting new institutions for the dysfunctional ones we have now.. i realize that sounds pretty difficult also

same thing.. ie: short bit


as much as i could, i sought to influence the influencers..


sitting on the private plane to mexico in 2012, i wished i could find a way to speak to my host, to convey to him the pressing needs of our moment – what might happen if his genius for building co’s could be channelled, used to liberate the masses from the mental prison the media has built around the human mind. but i could tell my views would mean nothing to him

wow.. so..

sitting on my chair reading how soon is now 2018, i wished i could find a way to speak to my author, to convey to him the pressing needs of our moment – what might happen if his genius/luck of connections could be channelled, used to liberate the masses from the mental prison the media has built around the human mind. but i could tell my views would mean nothing to him (rather.. would never reach him.. because.. our main problem today.. we don’t have a means to listen to all the voices.. aka:as it could be)


what if there are no experts, as of now in what the future can bring

i’m believing that..  1\ expertise has to be from all of us.. every last one..  2\ begs an expert idea to launch it.. ie: to free all of us


we can redirect our civilization along a diff path and we can do it quickly..  alexis zeigler writes in culture change ‘the solution to changing .. is the simple impossible act of creating social networks that build social support outside of the mainstream in the context of a truly sustainable society’.. if we haven’t accomplished this yet, it may be because we haven’t really tried..

or rather.. we haven’t focused enough.. been quiet enough .. to figure out what that might look like.. what that might take.. ie: a nother way


in 2012: the return of quetzalcoatl.. my last book, i explored the thesis that humanity is undergoing an evolutionary leap from one level of consciousness – one state of being – to the next..

aboriginals don’t conceive of history, of progress and redemption, of decline and fall. for them, the universe is a sacred continuum, and ongoing ceremony.. there is only one holy moment, infinitely extended. this way of understanding time is at least as sensible as ours..


we may be following a programme or sequence – mush like foetal development, where the mother transmits chemical signals to her infant, at precise intervals, up to the the moment of birth. how we understand and articulate it is part of the programme,executed by the code as it writes itself

sounds 100 monkey ish

right now, i believe we are in transition – in the birth canal – approaching the next threshold of our awakening..

what if that was our assumption about everyday.. that that happens to all of us .. everyday.. anew..

the imagination is not just a faculty. william blake considered it to be human existence itself..  when we ratchet up our awareness of unity w/in multiplicity – the world shifts correspondingly..


it’s hard to imagine how we can make a rapid systemic transition w/o a mass awakening of a consciousness revolution..

awakening indispensable people.. via 2 convos.. as infra

considering the severity of our biospheric emergency, we must find technical as well as social solutions that can replicate quickly and scale exponentially..

indeed.. let’s try a mech to listen to and facil all the voices.. everyday.. as it could be..

the rhetoric of sustainability tends to support the belief that our current form of post industrial capitalism can be reformed..  tha tit can persist in something close to its present order..

according to chaos theory, the nonlinear dynamics of living organisms allow for the emergence of new orders of complexity, when a system reaches a high level of instability..  a regenerative culture..  a new way of being..

a nother way


at this point, we need more than a vague idea of the alt.. we can’t just hold hands together and sing ‘imagine’ .. we have to understand what’s wrong .. while .. building the tangible alts..  we should demand a world that works for everyone..

100% of humanity.. indeed

we are one..


2 – ecstatic contact w the cosmos


our current civilization artificially keeps us alienated and isolated, in competition w each other.. ‘disasters, in returning their sufferers to public/collab life, undo some of their privatization, which is a slower, subtler disaster all its own’ – from rebecca solnit’s a paradise built in hell.. about people going out of way to help each other when catastrophe (ie: katrina) strikes



as individuals, we don’t need to wait or a catastrophic rupture.. but tragically, it seems that humanity, as a collective, requires a universal crisis to bring about our mass awakening

or.. a universal mech/focus/means..  ie: as it could be.. with/as detox embed..

our sense of self id and awareness develop thru adolescence, but we may require a culturally induced ordeal – an initiatory shock – to reach our full potential

rather.. we need to get rid of all the initiations we have institutionalized.. ie: school; work; adolescence; .. any supposed to‘s..

we wouldn’t need an inducing ordeals if we could let go enough.. ie: quit trying to control our 5 yr old curiosities..

now.. however.. we may need to ‘induce’.. provide.. for a temporal detox.. to wake us back up to that 5 yr old.. ie: self-talk as detox

one function of initiation , according to (john chilton) pierce, is to connect mind and heart..

we do that by focusing on maté basic needs.. and.. not separating them in the first place.. ie: a nother way book


pierce: ‘a poignant and passionate idealism arise in early puberty..followed by an equally passionate expectation in the mid teens that ‘something tremendous is supposed to happen’..

i’m thinking that’s just what we’ve gathered from watching whales in sea world.. and then insisting that patterned behavior is natural.. we have no idea.. what we’d be capable of if we let go of the institutions (of school; work; adolescence; .. any supposed to‘s.. ) and trusted people.. all ages.. all people.. to do the dance.. ie: meadows undisturbed ecosystem

when society thwarts our innate drive to find meaning/transcendence thru inner experience, the deepest, most sensitive parts of ourselves go numb

exactly.. and that happens at age 5.. or earlier.. and so we really have no idea what we’re like (ie: i don’t believe there’s an adolescence.. or a need for initiations.. et al)

we’re all tangled/twisted from small iterations of trauma.. to the parents/grandparents/et-al.. children/grandchildren/et-al..  begs we focus on the deepest (meaning affecting all of us) elements of trauma.. ie: 2 needs

w no access to transcendent states, people are trapped by constant cravings, seeking empty gratifications..

i’m thinking.. either.. 1\transcendent states are a symptom.. a means to escape or 2\ transcendent states come directly from facil ing maté basic needs.. just 2.. let’s focus on that

hari rat park law


the beats

remind me of crazywise film

they explored psychedelics and other ways to reach what the poet arthur rimbaud called a ‘systematic derangement of the senses’

maté not yet scrambled law.. begs we not hash it out of us (scramble it) in the first place..

the goal of the beats was to break free of received *ideas and stale conventions.. they wanted to recover originality, **spontaneity, mystical truth..

*yes.. the whales in sea world..  .. any supposed to‘s

fromm spontaneous law

they believe everyone could access their innate brilliance, once they *liberatethemselves from social conventions

*indeed.. but only if it’s all of us..  the dance needs all of us..

let’s do this firstfree art-ists.

for (blank)’s sake

a nother way


(on lsd/psych-substances).. they were deconditioning agents.. they made me aware that our civilization was an artifice, a consensual hallucination, and that our world could be constructed differently. .. also.. closed eye hallucinations.. incredible geom patterns..  demo’d existence of archetypal dimensions.. jung et al

as i researched.. i learned about ritual use of ayahuasca in s american  and w africa

gabor maté

michael pollan


these experiences convinced me that consciousness is not ultimately brainbased but a fundamental property of the universe..


now we need to reboot and install a new system software.. a new social design could, eventually, give every human being the opp to flourish and thrive.. a great mission that will require a truly rational, empathic application of our tech and creative powers..

equity: everyone getting a go everyday.. as it could be..

what we require is a new social design to liberate humanity from its prison

indeed.. rat park..  et al..

wilde: a map of world that does not include utopia is not worth even glancing at.. progress is the realization of utopias’

revolution: instigating utopia everyday



i seek to bring together the archaic and the postmodern..

eagle and condor ness


individual cells in our bodies do not hoard wealth/energy.. but store it in deposits of fat that are freely available to the cellular community as a whole. cells contribute their efforts to the collective body w/o seeking more for themselves.. w/o any competition, cells a well as organs work w max efficiency for the success of the whole

undisturbed ecosystem.. us as one

part 2 – hard limits

3 – earth changes


use techs to emancipate humanity..

yeah.. let’s do that.. in the city.. as the day.not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake


the best thing we can do its seize this chance to leverage a mass awakening

indeed.. ie: short bp


i believe that the only way we can engineer a rapid turnaround is to *repurpose the mass media and communications infra the capitalist system has bequeathed to us.. because human beings are extremely adaptive, this transformation could happen surprisingly quickly.. it requires first, an **imaginative leap..

indeed.. ie: *2 convos.. to address 2 needs..   and **leap like/via this: facilitate the chaos/detox of 7 bn free/alive people.. tech as it could be..


we must find ways to *overcome distractions.. such a movement can only be effective if we posses a **clear idea of the positive outcome we seek as well as the ***methods we must apply to attain it..

*gupta roadblock law.. for irrelevances/distractions et al.. to get to **eudaimoniative surplus.. via ***2 convos

the only thing that will inspire people to act, i believe, is a compelling and beautiful vision of the future – a future they want to see for their children and grandchildren..

soul/world peace.. undisturbed ecosystem.. aka: eudaimoniative surplus..

this has happened in the past, during wartime (ie: marshal plan; restructure after peal harbor.. 3 yr ban on auto sales et al), but never during peacetime and never on a planetary scale. what will it take to bring this about? that, dear reader, is a crucial question..

a simple plan


admittedly, we face what seems a socially impossible task. although there is nothing stopping us, physically, from making the sudden changes in species-wide patterns of behavoiur necessary to avert cataclysm. it seem inconceivable – culturally, politically and financially – that we will do so. yet we must…


the inconvenient truth is that overpopulation is not our major problem..

indeed..  begs we get to a problem deep enough for 7bn people to resonate with .. today..  if we want all hands on deck.. now.. in sync..


the interesting thing about social behaviour is that it is extremely contagious. people tend to do wha their peers do.. and they can switch their beliefs and habits quickly, even immediately, when the reward structure changes around them. malcolm gladwell called this the tipping point.


the maverick scientist rupert sheldrake proposes a more sophisticated mode, based on something he calls *morphic resonance or the hundredth monkey principle..  his idea is that when a certain small percentage of a species learns a new skill that ability becomes easier to transfer to others and **can even transfer instantly w/o direct contact, thru some unknown mech, perhaps quantum nonlocality.. pattern of thought and action may ***create new field of resonant potential that can become species-wide traits


*100th monkey

**let’s use short bp as small % to transfer.. rather .. to leap

or perhaps.. just ***uncover what was already on each heart..


when you or i make a change in our behaviour, this *affects and impacts upon the people around us directly and then the people around them, adding up to many more people. according t the morphic resonance theory, it may not be as difficult to effect large scale change as we tend to think it is – particularly now, when we are so **tightly linked together thru networks.. behaviour can change in a millisecond

*graeber model law.. w/in **pi degrees ness.. (not to mention again.. the vision is already w/in and craved by each one of us.. so.. begs no prep..  et al)

i’ve seen ie’s of this at burning man.. if being friendly, thoughtful and caring suddenly increases your status, gets you laid, brings you better drugs and makes you popular, .. gain community acceptance and love.. then that is what you will do..

i think we can go deeper.. that a reward system.. i think if we’re each doing our art.. the thing we can’t not do.. that is much more sustainable not to mention thriving.. than going off how others react.. and.. not to mention.. if we are all free to do our thing.. why would we spend it reacting/rewarding/judging others.. i don’t think we would..

to me.. seeking rewards as a means to make change happen.. is a huge compromise.. as in.. we’re just bringing the cancer in with us..

interestingly, most of the changes we now need to make as a species so that we can ll survive and prosper and our descendants can thrive would actually be beneficial for everyone, following an initial, awkward, admittedly uncomfortable period of adjustment. today, for ie, many people live alone in *small apartments, separated from their families and close friends. bringing people together again to live communally in multi gen compounds – as our tribal ancestor did – would be a powerful way to reduce consumption and waste.. it would also make people happier, healthier and calmer

indeed.. it’s not the small that’s bad though.. and not the apts.. that could be a great model of.. living communally ie: rp ness

given a new *incentive, life could become much better, not worse, people would have to **learn to trust and care for each other once again

or actually.. *no incentive..  and.. we could easily **learn from listening to our hearts.. and maybe taking in 5 yr old ness


people may realize that living w friends/family, in beautiful communities close to nature, where life is as self sufficient and sustainable as possible, w minimal electronic interference, would be the ultimate lifestyle.. and it is one we can attain..

affluence w/o abundance ness

one essential point.. is that all the changes in lifestyle/behaviour we need collectively .. will make the world kinder, gentler, happier, more cooperative, more loving..  living altruistically and cooperatively is closer to our basic nature .. than our current state of alienation and competition..  it is after all what we did for many thousands of years, as nomadic tribal people. now we hae to realize humanity as one unified tribe..

indeed..  thurman interconnectedness law.. et al

notice.. all the solutions proposed.. imply ..

to act, ironically, as we’ve often wished we could, if we had the time or inner motivation to try..

the luxury of whatever law ness


if people understood what was coming.. we would be applying our intelligence differently.. young people would pursue careers in ecosystem management, permaculture, wetland restoration.. the **best and brightest would be learning how to share and conserve resources, how to org local communities to max resilience, practices of active nonviolence and so on

see.. i think yeah.. that’s a result (pursuing careers – which see as poison).. of *people understanding what’s coming.. like you said earlier.. we need to be living in the moment.. the spontaneous moment.. in order to be our true selves.. and trust that to be enough.. for our true selves… to 1\ take care of everything  2\ not create all the problems (you’ve just addressed) in the first place

and remember.. no competition.. there is no *best and brightest.. it has to be all of us.. the one ness dance..

a major problem is our culture’s entrenched ideal of individualism. this is something we must supersede, even though it is hard to imagine how to do so..  in reality, our independence as individuals depends on our interdependence.. we should devise system in alignment w nature’s’ principles, that help us realize it

holmgren indigenous law.. undisturbed ecosystem

declaration of interdependence..

part 3 – regenerative solutions

4 – energy

solar energy, .. the energy of 7bn alive people



bill mckibben: ‘cheap oil is not a useful part of our economy.. it is our economy’..


john michael greer: oil provides 40% of all energy used by human beings on earth..


the average morsel of food in the us travels over 1500 miles


currently solar energy supplies only about 1% of electricity globally..


rifkin thinks we can get to zero margin



mason thinks we are approaching potential fora post capitalist civ.. where ubi ness gives everyone the means to live decently..  ‘freedom from work’..


as bucky predicted.. seem to be on a seesaw teetering between polar opposites


while solar energy and other renewables could fulfill all sorts of needs, they are not effective for certain purposes, ie: air travel.. one idea is algae for biofuel..(91)


the essential takeaway is that we have a realistic capacity to make a complete overhaul if our global energy system away from fossil fuels towards renewables.. we can accomplish in a few decades..

imagine if people are truly free.. not creating a bunch of that in the first place.. happy w enough.. et al.. then not even a decade..


this daunting task can be accomplished.. this will require a global movement of civil society, beyond anything we have seen to date. how such a movement developes – ow it organized itself to overcome the existing power relationships – is a question that i dont’ think anyone can answer fully at this point

let’s try this man: a nother way

5 – farming


how do we remove co2 from the atmosphere in large quantities..? (problem isn’t carbon.. it’s the imbalance).. more of us need to start growing our own food..

helena norbert hodge.. local futures institute: a lot of trade today is redundant.. w goods ‘sourced from thousands of miles away when an identical product is available next door’



growth of organic sector is problematic.. .. divide between haves and have nots

commercial agri is one of main contributors to climate change

agri surplus


returning to older, more human scaled systems will require a great deal of retraining but it can be done. we have the tool we need for it – a planetary nervous system, in the internet, that allows for immediate transmission of new ideas and tradition techniques.. .. as a basic principle of the new planetary culture, we will reconnect people to their local ecosystems..

2 convos .. in the city.. as the day.. 


permaculture.. developed by bill mollison and david holmgren in lat 70s.. the name stands for permanent agriculture..

david – permaculture – holmgren indigenous law


a global campaign could educate and inspire people to change their behavior for future generations.. .. we can change our approach to agri by subsidizing farmers..

or.. we could just do this first.. and trust us.. indigenous us (if we’re truly free)

6 – industry


what we now call ‘poverty’ is essentially a result of modern industrial civilization and colonialism..

poverty ness.. civilization.. colonialism (stamped from beginning)

because it is based on debt and inherently unstable, our econ system must grow constantly just to maintain itself..


we must change the underlying rules of the game..

if we conceive of humanity as a planetary super org, then we must consider how the organs of ta body work w max efficiency to support the health of the whole..

bag orgs/corps/whatever.. let’s just focus on 7bn people.. everyday.. let’s listen to and facil that

ie: undisturbed ecosystem.. via 2 convos.. as infra

we are trapped.. in world of monopolies.. bs jobs..

bs jobs

the potential , mason believes, is for ‘the abolition of the market and its replacement by postcapitalism’ if this is going to happen w/o massive dislocation/violence… it requires a designed transition..

try this: short bp


new social infra for goods/services

have/need ness via 2 convos.. as infra


the possibility of a society where tech would free humanity to cultivate its create powers and individuality was foreseen by visionaries like oscar wilde and buckminster fuller..

3 ships.. wilde and fuller

as it could be..


if this seems impossible to achieve, perhaps that is because we are only not turning our focus in this direction .. many things that once seemed impossible have been accomplished by human willpower and imagination



we need to become not just smarter, but wiser

actually.. just freer.. all the wisdom we need is already in us.. if we’re free/quiet enough to hear/see/be it.. ie: meadows undisturbed ecosystem


personally, i dont’ think we can make effective changes until we understand how ‘subjectivity’ – the inner domain of human consciousness – is not something freely determined.. consciousness, id, subjectivity are mass produced by the corp industrial mega machines..  those who are designer and media makers must be willing to intercede in their process and produce new ‘subjectivities’ shaping new patterns of behaviour and new values for the multitudes..

nah.. you’re describing whales in sea world.. we just need a mech to set all people (truly) free..

the only way i can envision the type of systemic change of values, beliefs and habits that we need in a short timeframe is thru the creation of a global marketing campaign couple w  as buck mister fuller foresaw, a ‘design revolution’.. a massive media blitz can give people new vision of the good the true and the beautiful.. we have to make conservation, degrowth, post capitalism, self sufficiency, sharing resource,s food growing , generosity and the virtue of necessity glamorous and fun..

nah again.. what we need is a large enough ecosystem to model a nother way to live.. aka: to model the freedom of an undisturbed ecosystem.. you can call that modeling a campaign if you like.. but i’d just call it an experimental model..

the key to this model is that

1\ it would be centered on a problem deep enough for 7bn people to resonate with (and so stick with) today..

2\ it would be facilitated by a mech simple enough for 7bn people to access/use.. today.. ie: no prep/training..

3\ it would take place in an ecosystem open enough to fractal ize 7bn people.. so that 7bn people could leap to it..


w/in a century, we could have rebuilt eco cities and redesign industries for future generations to live in harmony and in holistic communion w the planet

w/in a year.. we could eudaimoniative surplus.. aka: undisturbed ecosystem..

from the energy of 7bn alive people


my vision is that we resolve the antithesis between indigenous cultures that were small scale n dearth honouring and postmodern civilization, .. in a new creative synthesis..

eagle and condor ness.. yeah .. ginorm small ness.. zoom dance ness

part 4 – god, love and revolution

7 – mythology


everybody wants a better life.. if they are shown a way to get there, they will take it..t

model a nother way: 3 shipsshort bpshortshort bit


in fact we are going to need a number of miraculous conversions and reversals..

imagine 7bn.. today


the kogi and aruak mamas via wade davis: what has ultimate value i snot what is measured and seen but what exists in the many realms of meaning and connections that lie beneath the tangible realities of the world, linking all things


see w heart


increasingly, the elites in our society drink ayahuasca and explore other aspects of indigenous spiritual traditions. but we have not integrated the humility and reverence for the creative forces of nature that we find in cultures like that of the kogi. we have not yet understood that life itself is the prayer and the ceremony..

and.. we’ve not yet grokked.. that it has to be all of us..


if we were able to be ‘vaccinated’ against ageing.. the vast majority of people would want that opp… i often feel lie is shorter than it needs to be, and barely gives us time to explore a fraction of our potential..

a better means to a better life is not adding years.. but getting rid of all the distractions/irrelevant s.. ie: school, workmoneymeasure.. imagine if you were ‘allowed‘ to continue being a free/curious spirit at age 5.. 2.. whatever.. and imagine if you were raised by parents that had the same.. freedom..  we’d live eudaimoniative surplus (aka:undisturbed ecosystem)..

we have enough time.. we’re just not using/being it as we could be….

before humanity can make the jump to a new condition of being, we must address the ecological and social catastrophes we have unleashed on our earth.

i don’t think we do.. if the mech is right.. i think we just leap.. and that.. (the energy of 7bn alive people) .. will take care of any messes.. and most of all.. quit making/perpetuating them..

we must take care of all of our brothers and sisters who have been consigned to lives of squalor and *ignorance, making a commitment to **lift them up as equals and love them..

whoa whoa.. there can’t be any up and down ness.. but if there were.. *we need those oppressed to lift us us .. with their *wisdom

again.. not about highers/lowers.. we are all interconnected.. which is why .. in order to get us all back in the sync of an undisturbed ecosystem.. we need to leap..  for (blank)’s sake


some indigenous cultures talk about this age as the time when humanity ‘dreams the world awake’..  the gap between thought and manifestation is shrinking

page intention/action law

8 – love


humanity can realize love and solidarity – universal, unconditional  as the basis for healing out world

indeed.. love.. like trust (or are they the same..?).. it has to be unconditional


i remember from my early years, my adolescence, how the cultural ambience around sexuality had a dark, shameful feeling. there was no sense that boys and girls – or men and women – might seek to collab for each other’s sensual pleasure. that we might enjoy takin care of each other  – that we could learn to be generous, compassionate, w each other.. eroticism was not part of our ed. it was not something to be explored or studied, even as an afterthought – certainly not w the same kind of analytic rigour we brought to maths or physics, even though sex would be infinitely more important to our future lives than these academic subjects..

marriage ing

our civilization applies tremendous reserves of intellect and capital to construct killer drones, virtual reality devices, surveillance systems – instruments of death, alienation and fear…. yet we believe that love and sexuality are not worthy of our conscious attention.. we act as if they are outside the realm of logic, forethought and social design


we lack for cultural traditions that would help young people to embrace their sexuality as something wonderful, as a great gift they can explore and share responsibly..  sexuality is considered a private matter, relegated to dark places like nightclubs and bars, which hae an underworld ambience..


in sex at dawn, there is an explanation for why women make louder sounds during intercourse than men. these noises had a function in our earl hominid days: the female was calling out to other males in the area to have sex w her in succession. in this way, the child’s paternity would remain unknown. also, sperm competition would occur in the uterus. the female orgasm also has a reproductive purpose, as the contractions of orgasm pull the sperm deeper into the womb.. the male who elicited the most powerful orgasm would be the one most likely to fertilize her egg..


my anthropological observation is that people – young people above all – waste an unbelievable amount of their life energy in the quest for sexual satiation.. this energy that people expend in the incessant pursuit of sexual fulfilment is exactly the energy that we, the human community, need to redirect, channelling it towards our awakening..  to enact social change..


hollywood and the media idealize the nuclear family, which is the basic economic unit of our society.. when individuals merge into couples, and particularly when these couples have children, they tend to direct all their energy and resources towards themeselves.. they lose interest – if they ever had any – in helping the collective. instead, they seek to amass resources, playing the competitive capitalist game

not even that.. just the bureaucracy that surrounds the institutions (of marriage, parenting,..).. keeps us from doing/thinking/being much else..

to maintain their relationship, many people find themselves forced to lie about or suppress their true desires..

going back to original point.. that many never learned about them in healthy environments.. in the first place..


i don’t think it is an accident that so many creative artists and geniuses have been fascinated w eroticism and sexual love, pursing the muse as she expresses herself in many embodied forms.. erotic love is a kind of fuel thar makes people feel alive and inspired..

when people find themselves forced to lie to or deceive the person closest to hem – their partner – about their desires, they are conditioned to accept corruption and hypocrisy in society at large..  they can accept the half truths of politicians and pundits because they are compromised themselves..  we fail to care for the world as a consequence of our inauthenticity..

wilde not us law


duhm in terra nova: the concrete utopia is a latent reality w/in the universe.. just as the butterfly is a reality latent w/i the caterpillar. it lies in the structure of our physical and biological world in our genes and in our deeper ethical orientation.. w/in context of committed peace work, it is not the fixing of individual defects w/in existing structure that is required.. what is required is a fundamental system change..

indeed..  one that simply uncovers that latency.. (returns the turtle shell)


from what i’ve seen, tamera, the community founded by duhm and his cohorts, is the most advanced effort to work out the implication of our situation and construct a viable alt..

tamera (and dieter)

we need a new approach to community and, ultimately, a new social design that is holistic, and comprehensive and secure. a truly liberated society must support longterm care of children. it must take care of old people. ‘free love’ it turns out, requires a great deal of discipline

or just listening..


in tamera they say ‘jealousy is to love as asthma is to breathing’ ..

duhm, lichtenfels and their partners founded the community nearly 40 yrs ago in s germany and then moved their project to portugal 20 yrs ago..  on 330 acres..


it has expanded, slowly, to its present population of 170 people, the majority of them germans and n europeans.. the older women are a major force in the community

the tamerans see a link between how a community treats its water and how it handles love.. they believe both water and love need vessels of containment, along w opps to flow and expaned..  they believe .. love’s natural tendency is to expand and flow.. that the monogamy model is an artificial constraint

well.. it certainly has to be coerced.. in an artificial environment.. (ie: science of people et al) .. we don’t really know what our natural tendency might be.. if we were truly free our entire lives.. all of us..

just thinking that the backlash against monogamy is that you aren’t with the right person.. and maybe if we were free from the get go.. eudaimoniatively free.. we’d have a better chance at 7bn people finding their soulmate.. if soulmates exist..

one of the social techs tamera developed is called forum.. ever day,, groups of 30-40 people .. take turns speak about or act out relationships and experiences.. .. tamerans give feedback.. goal is honesty

i’m thinking everyday.. groups of 7 ish.. (ie: infra) – and no need to speak.. just being in a space.. for attachment (missing piece #2)..


tamera conceives of sexual satisfaction as more than the individual’s problem. they consider it a community responsibility.. they have a house on their land which is called the temple of love..  train to become priests and priestesses.. make selves available for other members of community who desire connection..


when we envision the transition to a post capitalist, post work society, we must have a plan in mind for *redirecting the productive and creative energies of humanity as a whole. **i think this ideal for a liberated eros provides the basis for it.. if we can create communities that allow people to have ***deep partnerships rooted in truth along w other lovers if they desire, we would no longer feel cheated by a world that seems to deny our deepest desire and yearning.s..

*energy/chaos will be facilitated via 2 convos..  rat park style

**for basis rather (and esp if our desire is to hasten this revolution..for (blank)’s sake).. let’s focus on just 2 needs.. via maté basic needs.. (authenticity and attachment).. am thinking then everything else will take care of itself.. ie: meadows undisturbed ecosystem..

you’re right.. erotic love is a big issue.. but so is climate.. neither however.. are deep enough to get to the root of our healing.. and if we make non-roots into basics.. they become a distraction..

***for truly deep partnerships – because each person is authentically themselves.. ie: eudaimoniative surplus


rather than taking incremental steps, we may make a rapid evoluionaly rleap from our curren tsuicide system to on tha thoonours life an destablishes a foudnation of secure love and trust between the genders..

indeed.. not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake

9 – rebellion


(after saying grew up in watergate knowing he wasn’t part of the system) we id’d as bohemians, marginal outsiders.. we focused on art.. the suicides kurt cobain and david foster wallace seemed to sum up gen x’s ambience of hopelessness.. i know feel contemp art/culture are a bit problematic..  dissident viewpoint.. often serve to legitimize the prevailing system..



if we apply our cunning and creativity effectively, it is quite possible we can transform this system peacefully from w/in..

indeed.. a quiet revolution.. key: make it for everyone.. about something everyone (has to deep enough to resonate w be everyone.. today) already craves.. (a&a).. via gershenfeld sel

although i consider contemp art world a nightmare.. black hole of ego and pretension that sucks huge amount of excess capital/intellect.. i believe art has a crucial role to play in our future..

i’m thinking we’re all art ists.. so begs.. we do this firstfree art-ists.


to define a political philosophy for myself.. i undertook a brainstraining.. : arendt; lenin; marx; trotsky; mao; rousseau; machiavelli; negri; zizek; bookchin; freer; kropotkin; mckibben; speth..

arendt.. marx.. negri.. bookchin.. mckibben.. speth..


for david graeber occupy was the local expression of a  ‘wave of resistance sweeping the planet.. the plan, he writes in the democracy project.. was to create the model fora ‘genuine direct democracy’..  .. *anyone who turned up could immediately participate


*imagine 7bn participating everyday.. in their own rooms

when i toured the bustling park, i was amazed by the quality of people’s discussions, and the passion everyone expressed. it felt surreal – as if all the convos i had been holding inside my head w long dead philosophers were suddenly being performed


everyone who attended the nightly gen assemblies had the same opp to debate, discuss and contribute to decision that impacted on the movement as a whole

i didn’t see that.. i saw masses .. repeating what the few who got to the front were saying.. am i wrong..?

occupy movement

not bashing occupy.. just saying we can and we need to do better than that forum.. as it could be..  ie: 2 convos.. as infra


reports by matt taibbi.. chris hedges



anarchy tends to be misunderstood.. anarchy is actually the most direct and egalitarian form of democracy, based on building consensus w/o coercion, recognizing the autonomy of everyone involved..  what’s interesting is that our new communications tools could facil such a system in a way that was never possible before

exactly.. sans consensus.. et al.. let’s try that.. as it could be.. because (can you hear me now..?)



gandhi: ‘*reps will become unnecessary if the national life become so perfect as to be self controlled. it will then be a state of enlightened anarchy in which each person will become his own ruler’

rep ness

the ideal state then would be one that no longer exists.. i find this an exiting prospect

the commonly held belief is that we need govt and the state to prevent terror and chaos.. do we really know this is to be the case any more

if it ever was.. it was because of the disturbances to the ecosystem.. not because we needed govt/state

ie: meadows undisturbed ecosystem

totaly do able today..


*i don’t think we can simply dissolve the govts we have now, as that would create chaos.

*not if what we offer is something everyone.. even those in govt.. would rather have/be..

but is it possible that we might engineer a peaceful step by step transition from govts controlled by wealthy elites where participation is limited to a p2p system..

i think (as you said earlier) increment ness is killing us.. we need the sync of a 7bn leap..  if you’re wanting steps.. call this..steps: short bp

our networks of communication could be used to orchestrate a worldwide campaign of education. as we teach the people of the world about what’s happening ecologically, we will also train them in participatory democracy, as well as ecological restoration..

oh my.. teaching won’t work man.. ie: graeber model law..  if it did.. we wouldn’t be in this mess..  and .. we don’t have the time to waste.. and people don’t have it to offer (to take in this teaching) .. we need a means to 1\ free people up in sync .. that then 2\ doesn’t require prep/training..  and that 3\ addresses needs people already crave (not everyone is dying to know about ecology/democracy/et-al) ..  ie: 2 convos.. as infra

10 – revolution


we need some kind of revolution, but it can’t be anything like the revolutions we have seen in the past..  we need one, to quote dieter duhm again, ‘whose victory will create no losers because it will achieve a state that benefits all

.. we must also make it a peaceful revolution

a nother way


according to arendt.. human being shave an innate political ability which modern society – empire – actively suppresses


when ‘the people in the sections were made only to listen to party speeches and to obey’ arendt wrote ‘they simply ceased to show up’


we need to understand what is at stake and wha tis possible – even at teh furthest edges of possibilities..  if we don’t have a plan..

as it could be..


bucky.. passed thru his own initiation as a young man, contemplating suicide at the age of 32, after the death of a beloved child. he decided that, rather than kill himself, he would dedicate his life to accomplishing the greatest good for humanity.. working together to elevate everyone on earth to a high standard of living

100% of humanity


he proposed giving everyone on earth who didn’t already have a mission a ‘research grant for life’ in whatever subject interest them..

yes.. graeber min/max al.. but we can do better.. ie: what if people change their mind..everyday.. let’s just listen to and facil that..

oscar wilde.. freeing up people to develop their unique individuality.. wilde say ‘cultivate leisure’ no work .. as the ultimate purpose of human existence


leisure.. whatever law via gershenfeld sel


venus project.. popularized by peter joseph’s zeitgeist documentaries



in multitude.. negri and hardt explore how a global revolution might become a universal phenom.. and happen quickly

hardt and negri –  multitude.. – assembly too


people have been *programmed.. but they can also be **deprogrammed, and this can happen quickly..

*manufacturing consent.. voluntary compliance  .. et al

**detox.. baked into 2 convos.. ie: self-talk as data


according to the multitude, revolution follow a pattern of ‘resistance, exodus, the emptying out of the enemy’s power, and the multitude’s construction of a new society’.. in the past this sequence took many years or even decades.. but because our new social tools allow for instantaneous global communication and coord.. negri and hardt believe that ‘insurrection activity is no longer divided into such stages but develop simultaneously’ i find this crucial insight

rather.. graber’s rev in reverse.. rev of everyday life..

our immediate mission is to be ready w working peaceful sustainblalts that can be scaled up when the time is right

how soon is now.. how about now..?

part 5 – post capitalims: property, money and power

sounds like assembly – property; money; power

11 – possession trance


rousseau believed the origin of civilization was private property.. ‘the first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying ‘this is mine’ and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society’.. ineq didn’t exist for man in what rousseau called ‘the state of nature’ .. in nomadic aboriginal societies

property.. affluence w/o abundance .. et al

rousseau believe this innovation led, eventually, to a state of collective suffering. in a society based on property rights, people find their positions insecure.. t..  they are forced to compete against each other – undermine/attack each other – to gain or protect their wealth..

property.. rights.. begs gershenfeld sel as security

if we think about it, we can see that private property – a mental construct we protect by laws an d police forces – has made our world an unfree world..

these fences and walls also live w/in us..

siddiqi border law

it is possible that our world will always remain unjust and unfree until we end the system that protects private ownership, above all other rights

indeed.. and.. rather.. until we end the system that assumes any rights


eventually we will supersede property rights thru new cooperative arrangements..

or. .. again rather.. thru disengaging from the need to arrange..

3 of my fav social thinkers – marx, wilde and fuller ..agree w rousseau that private property is at the root of our society’s sickness..  marx: we confused the abstract ‘sense of having’ w a real sense

marx, wilde, fuller

to have or to be..

marx reasoned, if humanity abolished private property and collectivized resources.. people would be free to live in the present again.. they would open their senses to the world around them

wilde: by consuming a man w what he possesses, it has led individualism entirely astray.. it has made gain not growth its aim.. so man thought the important thing was to have and did not know that the important thing is to be.. the true perfection of man lies not in what man has but in what man is’

to have or to be.. wilde not us law.. property


property (and the rents or interest collected from it) divides the world into two classes of people: haves and have nots

when somebody becomes wealth.. a huge amount of their intellect and energy gets channelled into protecting their wealth .. perhaps they originally want to create things that helped and improved the human condition. w personal success, however, their focus inexorably shifts to protecting their own assets and family’s interest against everyone else..

wilde: ‘when private property is abolished there will be no necessity for crime, no demand for it; it will cease to exist’

cure violence

the enormous waste generated by the capitalist system is caused, at the root, by the individual’s thirst to attain person wealth – the only way to be secure in such a system..

zin energy law

let’s try no property and gershenfeld sel

roots or healing


fuller: ‘possession is becoming progressively burdensome and wasteful and therefore obsolete’

masses of people, particularly younger people, are starting to realize this now..

we must first realize as marx and wilde did – that our civilization made a mistake in prioritizing having over being..  we don’t yet know what might happen to us once we correct that error..

we have no idea.. (black science of people law).. i’m going with eudaimoniative surplus.. aka: undisturbed ecosystem


wilde proposed a transition to a system in wich humanity was liberated from drudgery thru automation and freed from the burden of property by socialism. he admitted he was offering an idealistic utopian programme – but he did not think it was unattainable, even so..

wilde unpractical law:

wilde: ‘it is unpractical, and it goes against human nature. this is why it is worth carrying out, and that is why one proposed it. for what is a practical scheme? a practical scheme is either a scheme that is already in existence, or a scheme that could be carried out under existing conditions, but it is exactly the existing conditions that one objects to; and any scheme that could accept these conditions is wrong and foolish. the conditions will be done away with, and human nature will change..’

the alt.. is to engineer a peaceful transition of global civilization, superseding the current system of private property and hoarded capital by developing new infrastructures that convert property into cooperatively owned resources or trusts, over time.. w/in a few decades or at most a few generations, it should be possible to engineer a global conversion – a planetary reboot of our social operating system

or a year ish.. if we go deeper.. not just about private property.. and certainly not about transferring it to coop owned ness.. (ownership is killer as well.. anything that measures/assigns.. tit for tat ness)


one ie of how to abolish private property.. usufruct: right to use as long as they do not damage it.. this is how people in many traditional societies sill live today.. ie: ladakh..

helena.. ladakh

another ie.. urban community garden

our goal should be to develop a programme which, over time, dissolves the concept of ownership entirely

indeed.. and perhaps.. baked in at the beginning.. ie: short bp.. is easier than over time.. ie: 10 day care centers ness

peopel would need to know their *basic needs are fulfilled..

huge.. we need to know what they are first.. aka: a&a.. which changes/focuses everything.. via 2 convos.. as infra

ubi, would not have to prove their worthiness, or work to survive

indeed.. nothing to prove.. no more working to solve other people’s problems.. but again.. ubi as temp placebo.. if even..

rooted in a shared sense of security and social trust

best security: gershenfeld sel.. social trust: assume good


i think we need seriously to consider how we can make a peaceful transition to a propertyless society.. such a social infra could take over many functions now managed by govts

why..? so much of that is data that never really needed to be collected… and so we have inspectors of inspectors et al.. too much.. aka: B and b

let’s just focus on 2 convos.. as infra

this might take decades or even generations.. but we first have to recognize it as our goal

rather.. recognize 2 basic needs as goal.. for a problem deep enough for 7bn to crave today (ie: from above ladakh people wouldn’t crave non property as goal..) we have to get at heart/root.. and that would be beyond exponential.. take a year ish

have/need ness will become natural (again) on its own

12 – the money problem


fullerton believes our greatest challenge ‘is to address the root cause of our systemic crisis’

roots of healing


can we resolve the systemic problems.. or do we need to transition to a diff economic system, consisting of new instruments for *exchangin value, which support social equality and ecological health?

we need to disengage from thinking we have to exchange.. things/value

marsh exchange law et al


we must somehow use the mass media an dsocial media to provke a mass awakineing..

2 convos


rushkoff.. need to change money as os

rushkoff os law


i don’t see how reforms will be enoug. weah twe need, instead, is sto launch a new operatoingsysmte..

to replace the single monolithic currency, we require a combo of diverse instrumetns for exchanging vlaue.. thee would include communty currencies, negative interest curriends.. time banks..

i thought you were all about unpracticality.. something not yet done.. let go of money/measure.. try that

i don’t see how reforms will be enough. what we need, instead, is to launch a new os

indeed.. 2 convos.. as os


vitalik buterin.. calles these new enterprises, dao’s..  based on self executing contracts, define by mathematical rules..

vitalik, dao

13 – power and leadership


beatles.. john and yoko.. they tok out b&w billboards proclaiming ‘war is over, if you want it’.. this didn’t have to be a long drawn out process.. it could happen in one sudden leap of collective will and imagination..

john, yoko, imagine.. et al.. discrimination as equity..  lennon imagine law

what are we waiting for..?

let’s not wait..


most don’t even realize that much of what they believe to be true is just a programme that has indoctrinated them..

manufactured to consent.. or volunteered for compliance.. ie: been in school 12 + or – years..most of us.. not us

now we need people to be educated, flexible, adaptive and active in remaking our world..

well.. not really.. we just need people to wake up.. and listen to their heart.. each one already had all they need.. if they’re free enough to be quiet enough


ortega believed that most people needed to be given goals to believe in and strive towards

rather.. people just need to be quiet/free enough to listen to their own daily curiosity/whimsy.. ie: langer outcome law.. that’s the way to get to get us to a sustainable antifragility

ortega: ‘the majority of men have no opinions and these have to be pumped into them from outside, like lubricants into machinery’

rather.. wilde not-us law: ‘most people are other people, their thoughts are other people’s opinions.. their lives a mimicry.. their passions a quote..’

ortega thought it was the role of teh elite to est a civlization’s goals an dshape its opinions. the alt was chaos..

although it has been 80 yrs since he wrote his idiosyncratic masterpiece, i still agree w many of ortega’s ideas..  the mass of people are followers… most people simply want to be shown a path to a good and meaningful life..

not naturally.. we morph to that started around age 5.. when curiosity et al is sucked out of us


we can use our virtual infra an crop techniques to scale some of these practices (tribal) for a global civilization of over 7 bn people

eagle and condor ness

our culture is also good at spreading all kinds of distractions and deceptions tha tkeep peopel from acting effectively, or courageously

ie: school; workmoneymeasure; goals; validation; democracy; decision making; consensus; … et al.. begs gupta roadblock law.. to weed out the irrelevants


i tend to believe that, once we change our focus as a species, we will be able to access the latent powers of the psyche to bring about rapid planetary transformation..

indeed.. let’s focus on listening to all the voices.. as it could be.. w 2 convos.. as infra


in many cases the elder women.. had the power to remove the chief if he abused his position..

for all seeming abuses.. have you heard of this: your own song.. imagine how that would play out


to realize the still latent potential of our digital communications networks..  new techs would train people to make effective decisions together, based on consensus methods as well as ongoing referendums

i see that as a distraction.. let’s try this: to realize latent potential of digi communications networks..  techs would listen to the daily curiosities of 7bn people.. and facil that.. ie: 2 convos.. as infra.. imagine that..

pia mancini: ‘if internet is the new printing press, then what is democracy for the internet era?.. what institutions do we want to build for the 21st cent’..

pia.. internet to connect us via curiosity.. allowing us to disengage from decision makingconsensus,.. et al

loomio currently being used by podemos

loomio .. podemos..


we can use existing legal structure.. such as the international court of justice..

more distractions.. we need to design rat park for people.. ie: undisturbed ecosystem.. and trust that..

epilogue – conclusion and action plan

conclusion – what do we do now


when i shared aspects of this vision with people over the last decade, the most common question is ‘what can i do/’.. somewhat ironically, i have found this a difficult question to answer..

mostly because this begs a leap.. and the set up is simple.. so .. no one can do it till we all do..

and we’ve experimented enough.. so.. ethically.. because we are in our current situation.. and it’s difficult to make it  .. ie: to straddle both worlds.. the best anyone can do is practice being quiet enough.. so they are ready to hear/be the leap.. trust that it’s coming..

i believe we need systemic overview.. w/o this, i don’t think people can make good decision about what to do in the time just ahead..

so.. the systemic overview is that we focus on a&a (or rather.. curiosity.. to a person as the day).. the deepest needs .. resonating to each and every 7b some human beings..  for global systemic change


but the main problem is that the scale of the planetary crisis si so enormous that individual actions can seem kind of meaningless – until we figure out how to weave them into a unified global movement..

indeed.. the movement begs global sync.. (that fortunately is already in each one of us)


considering we are racing against an ecological emergency that could bring aobu humanity’s extinction, we need to be able to move quickly w/o obstrution from outmoded instituions and broken ideologies

yeah.. the eco stuff.. but also the fact that millions are dying needlessly daily..

so let’s do it.. and not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake

as i have suggested, this will require profound shifts in how we exchange value..

distraction man.. ie: marsh exchange law et al

make a placard of this: gupta roadblock law.. let it sink in.. it’s huge (vinay seems to have lost it himself).. it can save a lot of time/energy

irrelvant quote vinay

we have to accept – i realize it sounds a bit creepy – that people’s worldview, their ‘subjectivity’ is manufacture by the media.. the same tools of media and adverstising .. can be repurposed.. transformed into intsruments for liberation..

that’s why the design/mech/means for change begs a detox embed.. and it’s focus is to listen to daily curiosities.. and facilitate that.. as it could be.. because: can you hear me now..?


a change of global consciousness will be accomplished quickly when we can enrol the mass media, social media, and social networks and other social tools in accelerating this transition..

rather.. we need to free .. everyone.. from all of that.. and just focus on this.. as the day: 3 ships

people can be deprogrammed form their consumer trance, their cynicism. they can be given a new set of values, ideals, and habits..

no.. we can’t give people values/ideals.. if we want this revolution/transformation to be legit.. we just have to give people time and space w nothing to prove.. and listen to.. and trust.. that..


imagine if fb – reaching a bn people per day – decided to broadcast the urgency of the ecological crisis.. here’s what you can do

we already get that barrage of ‘to do’s’.. no..? it hasn’t worked..  we need to go deeper.. it has to start from w/in each person.. everyday..

fb money/coders/et-al.. could help with the next experiment.. but no one can broadcast loud enough a ‘here’s what you should do’.. unless 1\ the to do list is this: be you.. and unless 2\ you first free up 7bn to do that as the day.. [aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]

i started the evolver social movement page.. which currently has 2 mn followers.. if we were able to launch a campaign to boycott a co like ..

distraction.. gupta roadblock law..

currently we have no way of reaching out to all of them..

that’s the wrong problem.. rather .. we need a way to listen to 7bn people.. today.. everyday.. right where they are at.. (assuming we’ve freed them first).. as it could be..

all the latest info on climate change, species extinction, ocean acidification .. could be presented and updated in real time.. fb could build an infra for people to start local community groups, including tools for voting together online..

distraction.. gupta roadblock law..

rather 2 convos.. as infra


we have tools and techs to bring about a rapid, even sudden evolution of human society in all of the ways i have previously discussed.. but our political econ ‘os’ is obstructing our ability to move as swiftly as we must

short bp man

individually, people are highly susceptible to peer pressure; collectively, the multitude has a powerful herd instinct.. we need to leverage what we know of human psychology

i believe we have that all wrong.. that’s how we act in a disturbed ecosystem.. (aka: whales in sea world)..  part/most of our problem is that we have become reactors..  when what we need most.. is the energy of 7bn alive people

we must find a way to engage people, ever deeper, in an ongoing process of transformation.. t

exactly.. and that has to come from w/in .. everyday.. anew.. ie: self-talk as data

moveon.. transition town.. 12 step.. burning man.. zeitgeist..

transition towns.. burning man.. zeitgeist


on evolver.. we created monthly themes which the diff local organizers could explore as they chose..

offerings (aka: spinach or rock ness) won’t cut it.. we need to go for global/individual cure ios city.. let’s try that os..

the blockchain offers us the potential to creat organization define by ‘smart contract’

blockchain (or holochain or whatever).. offers us the potential to host life bits  (from self-talk as data)

smart contracts are distraction.. gupta roadblock law..

pope francis: care for our common home

oikos ness


bring about the next threshold of human liberation

let’s do this firstfree art-ists.

for (blank)’s sake

a nother way

only capitalism and human greed stand in the way.. t

rather.. what stands in the way is that there is currently no alternative for 7bn people to access.. today..

we need to model:  a nother way..  that is deep/simple/open enough for 7bn people to leap to .. today..


people need a vision of the future that is so inspiring they find the will and desire to sacrifice to attain it

that would be: something 7bn people are already craving in the souls.. and they don’t need to sacrifice (we can’t afford that.. we need everyone on board from the get go) .. we also need to set  e v e r y o n e  free first..

wilde: ‘cultivated leisure’ – i think this remains a valid goal for us.. and is now an attainable one.. t

indeed.. eudaimoniative surplus.. from everyone being free enough to do whatever they want


new forms of community, integrating care for children and elders..

well.. all of us.. ie: in the city.. as the day

outer reaches of inner space

zoom dance ness

we could transform the world once again, if we discovered a new form of energy, w diff properties..t

ie: the energy of 7bn alive people


seem to tell same story over and over.. films like matrix, star wars, harry potter, x men, avatar, the heroes must be initiated, *trained at a kind of school, to master their psychic powers.. these stories could be more than fantasy.. they may foreshadow what’s ahead..

*distraction.. gupta roadblock law..

i believe the future.. has to be for all of us.. which begs.. no prep/training.. it’s about what is already in each one of us


as it could be..

2 convos.. as infra

ie: hlb via 2 convos that io dance.. as the day..[aka: not part\ial.. for (blank)’s sake…]..  a nother way

undisturbed ecosystem


gershenfeld sel

why leap


thurman nourishment law

the human spirit cannot abide the enforced loneliness of isolation. we literally feed on each other;

where this nourishment is not available, the human spirit and the human body – both – sicken and die.. 

to seek nourishment is a *built in urge

this is huge.. we’ve been spending/wasting time/energy trying to nourish/*train ourselves w/unnourishing things..


from Howard Thurman‘s search for common ground (above law from p 3):


here is the paradox.. a man is always threatened in his very ground by a sense of isolation, by feeling himself cut off from his fellows. yet he can never separate himself from his fellows, for mutual interdependence is characteristic of all of life 

(bob) thurman interconnectedness law


the need to care for and the need to be cared for is another expression of the same basic idea. it is *unnecessary to resort to moral/religious authority for a mandate or for an injunction. **such needs are organic

*meadows undisturbed ecosystem

**maté basic needs


what we need is the energy from 7bn alive (thurman alive law) people

therefore, whenever the individual is cut off from the private/personal nourishment from other individuals or from particular individuals, the result is a wasting away, a starvation, a failure of his life to be sustained and nourished..

this causes the wasting away.. not job loss (yang at 47 min: ie: if look at data.. that if someone doesn’t have a job.. esp if a man.. they tend to disintegrate into anti social self destructive behaviors.. i mean that’s just again.. facts and data..) .. graeber jobless law ness

the human spirit cannot abide the enforced loneliness of isolation. we literally feed on each other;

where this nourishment is not available, the human spirit and the human body – both – sicken and die..


to seek nourishment is a built in urge.. an ingredient of life in its simplest or most complex manifestations..

this is huge.. we been spending/wasting time/energy trying to nourish/*train ourselves w/unnourishing things..




stefano harney

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intro’d to Fred and Stefano and the undercommons via Michael Hardt here:

2015 – 4 min clip on curriculum and study w egs (european grad students)


on the hierarchy of ed.. and egs as the pinnacle of the hierarchy

on the other hand.. egs demands an incredible independence of the people that come here.. all are responsible for their own learning

if egs went on longer.. i think it could end up being a collective project.. it ends up being very individual

and the students who come to egs are ones who are already mature intellectually.. maybe just in life.. that allows for this kind of independence..

i view egs as this tension between something higher than the academic star system plus a kind of mature/independent student activity

2 min – i’m attracted by the idea of study.. via Fred Moten and Stefano Harney .. as some self org’d activity

Fred Moten

Working from and within the social poesis of life in the undercommons Moten and Harney develop and expand an array of concepts: study, debt, surround, planning, and the shipped. On the fugitive path of an historical and global blackness, the essays in this volume unsettle and invite the reader to the self-organised ensembles of social life that are launched every day and every night amid the general antagonism of the undercommons.

book on hold at library.. thank you

poesis – In philosophy, poiesis (from Ancient Greek: ποίησις) is “the activity in which a person brings something into being that did not exist before.” Poiesis is etymologically derived from the ancient Greek term ποιεῖν, which means “to make”

there’s a way in which curriculum is already/always hierarchical.. proposed by admin/profs.. and i really think to overcome that is something that the profs/admin can’t do.. i think it has to be.. transformed in a way that’s org’d by the students .. so this is what they (Fred Moten and Steve Harney) mean by study.. i mean it’s a strange term.. so banal/normal term.. but what they mean by it is students take control of the learning environ

3 min – so if one were then to try to transform curriculum.. as a plan of study..  that’s self org’d from below.. that’s the way i would be interested in curriculum.. t

cc dave cormier


july 2015 – UNIKE Project: Keynote speech by Professor Stefano Harney


6 min – there’s a problem w notion of blm.. it is an appeal to a certain kind of individual rights.. which have always existed.. essentially against the actual conditions of black people in the us.. aboriginal people.. etc..  it’s part of a history of liberalism that only exists.. i would say.. by feeding off of the denial of such rights to others.. so .. there’s something contradictory in blm


7 min – on the other hand.. black life matters.. or we might even say.. black life is a mattering.. and it’s been a mattering recently that has had a new form of opposition in it that’s quite important..

so the reason i’m starting w ferguson.. is a want to make an argument to you.. today.. you can’t really understand the uni.. in its most generalized form.. w/o understanding logistics (the detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies) .. and you can’t really understand logistics.. w/o understanding race .. t.. and ultimately.. what Fred and i would call blackness

8 min – what we’re seeing in ferguson.. is a case in which j walking was punishable by death.. and i’d say that that’s not entirely incidental..  even though if i have to admit.. it’s partly symbolic

some of you may know the history of j walking.. it’s part of a transition from colonial capitalism to industrial capitalism in the us.. a j was a country bumpkin.. someone who walked down the street..  because he/she didn’t know better.. and as a result.. there was a public campaign.. but backed my the emerging auto industry.. to get people not to walk down the middle of the street.. because there was a beginning of a flow of traffic.. the streets becoming part of a set of grids that would underpin much of industrial capitalists

i knew there was something about my drive (ha) to walk in the street

9 min – so that j walking had a significance in the period of transition.. that motif of travel is becoming significant again.. in this period of what i’m going to call.. logistical capitalism

so how can we get to the point where j walking was punishable by death..  well of course we know all the reasons that this kind of violence persists in the us.. and yet.. nonetheless.. i do think there’s something here that’s worth us thinking about.. maybe in a new frame.. w/o imagining that those other things necessarily go away

10 min – in particular.. that there’s a transition that goes on in industrial capitalism to what i’m calling logistical capitalism.. which has a figure also..  maybe not the j walker.. but maybe the traveling salesman.. one aspect (many jokes goes to farm.. and loss of innocence of female et al).. but there’s another aspect and that’s what’s sometimes called the traveling salesman problem.. the problem of how to have an efficient movement of goods and people.. a classic logistics problem..

12 min – that traveling salesman figure has gradually morphed.. to the figure of domination today.. and that is.. the consultant..  the consultant today is the bearer of the algo..  and that consultant produces certain set of new class relations..

in order to say more about that and why it’s important for the uni.. i have to say 2 things about what’s changing in the econ.. and what has changed.. 1\ there’s a kind of objective way in which..certainly something like the american econ has become more logistical.. ie in us.. vast majority of states.. the biggest job is trucking.. 2nd is secretary and 3rd is programmer..

13 min – now of course these categories aren’t very good.. but even given the problems w the category of trucking.. which include all kinds of delivery.. there’s a way in which the american econ has a good deal of logistics behind it and a good deal of the algo.. and when that is coupled and doubled as it is.. with the financialization of the econ.. we can get the sense of why the consultant might be the figure of domination today.. the same way i would argue that in industrial capitalism the citizen was the figure of domination.. and prior to him.. the settler was the figure of domination in colonial capitalism.. so this consultant has a lot to answer for but he’s hardly individually responsible for this

14 min – partly what has happened.. i think requires a slight revision of our history of financialization.. we have a tendency to think of financialization as having come into the firm.. and being part of what breaks up the firm.. re orgs the firm..

but in a way i think the road for finance is prepared thru a much more obscure set of processes that take place in businesses and are particularly located in ..operations management

15 min – op management characterized by japaneze term kaisan.. in which a change happens in the labor process.. shift in focus.. a new attention to the continuous improvement of the line.. it’s always there.. competition and improvement.. but there’s a new intensification in how the line moves/operates.. and what it’s capable of doing..

this coincides w a bunch of things including the coming together of op management and logistics.. but this attention to the continuous improvement of the line begins to shift focus away from products and onto the notion of how people can do things.. and this .. will lead to this confusion we have now where it’s quite common to imagine that anybody can run any kind of business.. because they have an ability to improve it..

16 min – but this starts in a very specific way i would argue.. and it has very much to do with beginning to think about moving away from human resources.. it’s not the people who are important.. moving away from accounting and engineering .. it’s not the stuff that’s important.. the line itself becomes important.. but.. as this line is becoming more important.. it’s also exploding.. firstly because.. logistics theorists and operations people have begun to see that there’s a complete line that goes in and out of the factory door and continues both directions.. into society and into nature.. and that line is beginning to be extended.. all along it it’s subjected to this continuous improvement and this imperative to show new ways.. in which essentially one can speculate on the line.. and it’s that speculation on the line and what the line can do that invites finance .. in my view.. at the end of the 1970s.. beginning of the 80s..

17 min – now.. why do i go thru all that.. and what’s the relation of that to the uni and what we’re trying to do here.. well.. what i’m suggesting of course.. is that the thing that i’ve been describing is essentially what is called sometimes the social factory..  the way in which the assembly line now weaves its way thru society as a whole and is no longer confined to the individual firms/factories/etc.. but more importantly.. that that social factory puts so much pressure on us.. because it’s not just a matter of us now being responsible for connecting that line.. and it’s not just a matter that that assembly line itself is always unfinished now.. which puts a tremendous amount of pressure on us.. but it’s also that we’re not just responsible for connecting.. for linking it to the next person/thing.. we’re responsible for improving it.. so you can’t just pass an email along.. you have to pass it along w a comment

18 min – so there’s tremendous pressure w this kaisan being spread thru society in this way and also tremendous uncertainty because we never know when we’re done .. because we are never done.. and one of the things that the consultant has produced in the algo is a notion that the labor process is forever unfinished.. the assembly line is forever unfinished.. even as it weaves thruout

work ness

now that notion of work that’s always unfinished.. of danger of never doing enough.. of course is new to some of us.. but it certainly isn’t new to some of the figures that sit at the background of this talk.. and particularly.. it’s not new to the indentured worker.. to the slave.. to the migrant.. that there should be no end to the labor process and no notion of when it’s ever complete..t

19 min – but more importantly.. what logistical capitalism ask of us.. is not that we continuously improve/connect alone.. but also that we provide and also demand.. complete and absolute access.. to ourselves.. and that we demand of others that kind of access.. that more than anything else is for me the reason that the figures who haunted in their struggles for liberation earlier from forms of capitalism return w such a vengeance today.. because the ultimate figure both of liberation from this access and of complete access itself.. was the african slave.. and not just the african slave.. but anyone who crossed the path at that particularly brutal moment from aboriginals who were enslaved to asians who were indentured.. etc etc

20 min – that notion of access which is what logistics precisely demands of all of us again is in that sense a very old form of exploitation and a very old form of domination.. to me.. j walking today is a form of sabotage.. and in that sense.. i’m not surprised that these forms of decent are meeting with most brutal kinds of responses from the state.. of course.. that’s all the more reason to struggle against that state and i think we’re seeing that in places like ferguson.. but nonetheless i would say.. that the kind of capitalism we’re in now.. one in which what’s demanded of us is not only total connectivity/flexibility/translatability.. but also total access to ourselves.. at every level.. intellectual/emotional/relational/etc.. is something that has long been resisted.. and resisted most by those who have most been exploited and dominated by it

21 min – and it’s for that reason that i think the way we might try to understand the uni today.. is by trying to get a sense of where it sits w/in this logistical capitalism.. and i think we can maybe reach some interesting observations about the uni doing it that way..

22 min – now i’m aware that the uni on the one hand needs to be understood still .. and i don’t deny this as a kind of condensation of forces and that in addition to that there is an ongoing class struggle in the uni..

but i wanted to actually focus on that other aspect of the uni.. that maybe is slightly less fashionable.. and that’s its role in domination.. t.. a short quote from althusser.. he’s talking about schools and he says:

what everybody also knows however.. that is what nobody cares to know..  is that alongside these techniques..  reading/writing/arithmetic.. and this learning.. elements of scientific and literary culture that function as know how.. alongside but also in the process of acquiring these techniques and this learning.. people also learn in school the rules.. good behavior.. that is.. propriety (the state or quality of conforming to conventionally accepted standards of behavior or morals) this to be observed by every agent in the division of labor.. depending on the posts he is destined to hold.. these are rules of professional ethics/conscious.. that is .. to put it plainly.. rules of respect for the social/technical division of labor.. and in the final analysis.. the rule of order established by class domination.. people also learn to speak proper french at school.. to write properly.. which is in fact means.. for future capitalists and their underlings.. to order workers around properly.. which in fact means.. the ideal case.. to talk properly to them .. so as to intimidate them or cajole them .. in short.. to con them.. the literary curriculum in secondary and higher ed served that end among others .. to put this in more scientific terms.. we shall say that the reproduction of labor power requires not only the qualifications be reproduced.. but the submissions to the rules of respect for the established order be reproduced at the same time..  this means for the workers.. reproduction of labor powered submission to dominate ideology.. and for the agents of exploitation and repression reproduction of its capacity to handle the dominate ideology properly .. so as to ensure the domination of the dominate class verbally..

24 min – so .. with that in mind.. that the uni .. in addition to being something that’s been nicely covered at moments.. a place of class struggle.. a place where a lot of labor happens.. it is also.. remains.. *a place where domination is reproduced.. and it’s interesting to think about what domination might look like for logistical capitalism.. and i’ve been trying to think about this w/in the context of my own uni.. singapore management uni.. which is in a sense quite a technical uni.. very concerned w business/law/accounting/econ/etc

*harney domination law

25 min – and yet.. in recent  years..  its emphasis has all been in these directions which make no sense on the surface that way.. ie: they’ve tried to reach 100% of undergrads going overseas at some point; they’ve created all kinds of creative lab spaces for these undergrads who have no obvious interest in sitting in these spaces and playing on these bean bags; and then most remarkably recently.. they’ve created.. what althusser calls a literary culture.. a kind of humanities.. in fact.. that’s the reason i’m there.. and i would suggest that all of those things have to do w forms of domination.. which are taking the form.. increasingly of demanding.. so as providing.. access..

26 min – and that this increased attention to travel, to study that never ends and has no separation from the life a student on a bean bag chair.. and indeed this humanities curriculum.. which does what humanities curriculum has always done.. since the time of kant at least.. which is reproduce a verbal domination.. as althusser would say.. these are all parts of new forms of command that are necessary for those who intend to order around others in logistical capitalism..  as well as to be subject to it themselves.. and it’s no longer enough to merely have professional ethics in accounting but one must branch out into these various forms of open access.. to use the popular term..

27 min – now.. i don’t suggest that other things have necessarily gone away.. primitive accumulation is still w us.. and certainly industrialization is still w us.. at least in my neighborhoods ..but i do think we are facing something quite new here in logistical capitalism.. in that.. one of the reasons we can read its newness is the viciousness with which.. for a long time.. but now.. with increased attention.. many communities are met who fail to provide this access..  who fail to move in the right ways.. who fail to let things pass thru.. from the perspective of logistical capitalism.. but from the perspective of peoples and communities who are involved in these kinds of struggles are in fact.. i think .. showing us the way toward sort of liberation from this logistical nightmare.. as the popular term goes..

28 min – q&a

q: what constitutes the line  a: i would say that the line is constituted by labor..  so the line is constituted and re constituted by us.. what flows in that line and what we bring to that line in order to improve it.. i think are all the things that you’re mentioning .. this is sometimes understood today in national discourse as critical infra.. the heart of the identifiable lines moving thru society.. so on the one hand.. something we’re seeing is .. an increased laboring of the other circuits of production as marx would call it.. so there’s more labor going on in circulation/distribution/consumption/realization.. but on the other hand.. i think we’re also seeing something diff going on in production.. which is why i think it’s worth.. beginning to raise the question about .. we need to think about another way to talk about capitalism today..

30 min – and what i didn’t have time to go into.. but maybe what i would partly suggest.. a notion of logistical capitalism is in opposition to is this idea that we entered this era of immaterial labor.. in which we’re going to be working creatively and in which the model we should have in mind is the student/artist/academic.. who has no division between work and life etc..  google employee didn’t think this was going well.. but independent of that.. from a political/philosophical view as well.. that notion that exploitation is going to be subject based.. it’s always been and i think remains a kind of elite notion.. but i think it’s also really false.. logistics isn’t really interested in our personalities.. and access.. precisely .. is about not giving a shit about your subjectivity.. which is why resistance to or liberation from access is equally about not giving a shit about your subjectivity.. which would be.. i wouldn’t say my critique of blm..  but why that’s not the way i would approach black life as a force of liberation today

32 min – q: can you say more about the humanities in singapore  a: i liked that quote you read from google research.. i think that’s what’s the govt has in mind in singapore.. they want at least a % of their uni population to be able to go into that world that is creative.. w other creatives.. but singapore is also just as happy for everyone else to be in logistical capitalism.. it suits them fine.. that most people aren’t going to be creative and that there isn’t going to be a struggle over their subjectivity at work.. but rather that.. things are simply going to pass thru them.. and if they don’t offer access.. they’re going to have trouble.. so i think that’s their idea of the humanities.. and they want to train a small group of people to have that as part of their ability to establish a class relation w/o others who are going to be .. just doing logistics..

33 min – it’s internally conflictual at the institutional level.. for sure.. because the second that they discover what the humanities actually is.. they discover that it’s dangerous.. in the particular scenario that we’re talking about.. i don’t hold up a lot of hope that that danger is going to add up to very much.. but.. it definitely is yet another proof that you have to be careful what you wish for.. when you’re talking about the humanities..

34 min – q: i think moocs are showing a straight line for us.. ie: textbook co to student.. tracing eye movement.. i think we get distracted w moocs not realizing what they really are..   a: i think you’re right..  breaking down the body functions.. effect.. is part of what logistics does in order to get access.. whether to speed things up.. and to find ways to improve things..  i think that the student experience.. certainly at smu.. but i think in a lot of places.. increasingly has to do with beginning w comfortable feeling like data for instance.. already as we know students are accustomed to instant access to info that also very quickly bleed over into their demanding that from others.. and i think that’s maybe part of the interesting class position of being students.. esp at more elite unis like auckland and smu.. i think what’s happening in terms of that.. althusser separates these two things.. the skills that need to be reproduced and the domination.. but today.. the way logistics works.. most definitely not thru the subject.. we see that these things get blended.. that there are all kinds of ways so it’s sometimes hard to say wether someone is being prepared to command others in lc or is simply learning how to be more openly accessible

36 min – a good ie of this.. in a very concrete way.. is something like alfred..  this service that’s only possible w this kind of break down and opening up of the assembly line thru society.. and it’s .. essentially what alfred is is people who have no jobs who agree to be just-in-time butlers for people who do have jobs.. this works on the one hand .. in places like us and britain we have this pulling away of a class that can do this.. but it also works because people’s lives become so scattered by trying to be affective on this assembly line and try to be continuously improving .. of course.. they can’t manage their own lives.. at the same time lc pushes out anybody who hasn’t figured out how to offer up access.. and they become available to do this kind of alfred butler stuff.. so just like the micro tasking of the mechanical turk..  or something else.. these are all sort of by products we can see that are flowing out of this kind of ridiculous kaisan in the social factory.. that can’t possibly be answered..  and causes the kind of fracturing of society

38 min – q: if we’re all workers and all getting exploited.. who (couldn’t hear)  a: well that’s a nice question.. it’s a sociological way that’s looked at thru things like davos..  but that doesn’t interest me very much .. what does interest me is the way that domination operates.. when the people who are supposed to be able to consider themselves subjects.. are themselves broken apart.. by access and by logistics.. so what i would say to you.. to me.. what is interesting right now.. is that’s a very difficult question.. i think that’s part of what’s going on w the humanities..  they can’t reconstitute the subject because society won’t have it.. so i think it’s a very interesting moment for that.. althusser is out of date in that sense.. but i still want to talk about domination and the way it’s produced in the uni.. because i think it’s still a primary site for that effort.. it’s just that it’s no longer distributed in bodies that can in turn think of themselves as individuals and subjects in the way that it might previously have been


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Stefano Harney teaches at Singapore Management University in Singapore.  He is co-author with Fred Moten of The Undercommons: fugitive planning and black study (Minor Compositions, 2013) and most recently with Moten of ‘Use and Usufruct’ in Gaye Theresa Johnson and Alex Lubin (eds) Futures of Black Radicalism (Verso, 2017) and ‘Indent: to serve the debt’ in Johanna Burton et al (eds) Public Servants: Art and the Crisis of the Common Good (MIT, 2016).  He curated the show ‘Shipping and the Shipped’ at the Bergen Assembly triennial in 2016 as part of the free thought collective.  With Tonika Sealy Thompson he runs the residency and study project Ground Provisions.  He is part of the School for Study, a nomadic collective of university teachers whose exodus from the university marks the space and time to study.